Roland Cloud

[Echoes in the Attic]

303 doesn't show up in Bitwig or Maschine for me. I'm on Windows 10. Anyone else? This is a bummer.

[fmr]

303 doesn't show up in Bitwig or Maschine for me. I'm on Windows 10. Anyone else? This is a bummer.

I has errors at scanning in several hosts. But I am not THAT interested in the 303 anyway. I never understood what's all the fuss about it

I am waiting for next month. This month's treat wasn't for me

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

If you figure they'd charge around $149 for each and offered no bundle, that'd be well over a grand right there. $20 a month + 2 plugins per year seems perfectly reasonable to me all things considered.

I don't think they keep the 2 per year offer. That was just last year, I think. The program was, and still is, if I'm not mistaken, ONE plug-in per year.

That's what I initially thought, but someone said two instruments earlier today and I ended up repeating that without confirming. I ended up getting the two, having been subscribed for a while when that was offered. Still think it's a decent value at 1 per year.

[Stefken]

If you figure they'd charge around $149 for each and offered no bundle, that'd be well over a grand right there. $20 a month + 2 plugins per year seems perfectly reasonable to me all things considered.

I don't think they keep the 2 per year offer. That was just last year, I think. The program was, and still is, if I'm not mistaken, ONE plug-in per year.

No, the new policy is 2. This was not just a new year deal but is the new 'permanent' policy. Confirmed to me by Roland support directly.

All you need is 12 months on the counter. So intermittent subscription that adds up to 12 months also counts.

[Bippo]

Awesome but i expected the jd990...

The 90's were nice...but we are in 2019, they already included the jv-1080 and d-50, why not expecting for something more modern such as integra/fantom? All these old romplers have their nostlagic value but I think they should have higher priority of including their most recent romplers instead of feeding the masses with old techonlogy in the form of vst.

Unless you aim for a retro sound, I doubt there's any advantage of using these old sounds compared to the high sample rate of kontakt libraries or spectrasonics products, for instance.

You are funny. Didn't you realize yet that Roland Cloud is ALL about recreations in software of OLD machines?


WRONG!
Roland Cloud is NOT all about recreations in software of old machines.
Only the "legendary" and "anthology" sections of their catalog (plus 808/909/303) is dedicated to that. What about sections such as "flavr", "tera" and products such as "drum studio"?
You better know what you pay your rent for buddy.


Do you know any hardware manufacturer that offers SIMULTAENOUSLY software versions of their hardware instruments currently on the market?

That's exactly my point. They fear of declining hardware sales, which is why they milk your money for 30 years old instruments. That's why there are way better products out there in the realm of vi's than these in the roland's cloud.


Besides, the Integra and the Fantom are nothing more than variations of the JV-1080 (which actually goes way beyond the 1080, up to the XV-5080). We around here aim for the JD-800/JD-990 because they had something that you CAN'T find in those "modern" Roland machines (the same way the Jupiter had, and the Juno, and the x0x machines, etc.)

WRONG AGAIN!
Integra-7 has all of the sounds from the XV-5080 + all 12 srx libraries + the SuperNATURAL sounds that you won't find in xv-5080.


And, if we are going for more modern machines, Roland has one that easily overpasses those Fantoms and Integra - the V-Synth. I, as well as some others, also hope to see that one - way more than any Fantom, I dare to say.

You seem to know little about the subject.

WRONG AGAIN!
I wouldn't expect to see the v-synth as a vst for the reasons I stated above.

To sum it up: you don't even know what you pay you rent for (there are more things in their cloud than creations for old machines) and you don't know what's exactly the integra includes.

Anyway, I would rather concentrate my time and resources on software that's more relevant to the present than get lost in the past. Music should move forward not backwards.

[Atlatnesiti]

303 doesn't show up in Bitwig or Maschine for me. I'm on Windows 10. Anyone else? This is a bummer.

I has errors at scanning in several hosts. But I am not THAT interested in the 303 anyway. I never understood what's all the fuss about it

I am waiting for next month. This month's treat wasn't for me

Very odd. All Roland Cloud instruments showing in all my hosts - Logic Pro X, Cubase Pro 10, Ableton Live Suite 10 and even in Zen Aud ALK 2 and Reason 10.
I wonder what are your “several hosts” that produce errors?

[Echoes in the Attic]

303 doesn't show up in Bitwig or Maschine for me. I'm on Windows 10. Anyone else? This is a bummer.

I has errors at scanning in several hosts. But I am not THAT interested in the 303 anyway. I never understood what's all the fuss about it

I am waiting for next month. This month's treat wasn't for me

Very odd. All Roland Cloud instruments showing in all my hosts - Logic Pro X, Cubase Pro 10, Ableton Live Suite 10 and even in Zen Aud ALK 2 and Reason 10.
I wonder what are your “several hosts” that produce errors?

Maybe a windows issue?

[yehboy1]

Edit: never mind. I figured it out.

[sleepcircle]

Anyway, I would rather concentrate my time and resources on software that's more relevant to the present than get lost in the past. Music should move forward not backwards.

the newness of the instrument does not determine the newness of the music that can be gotten from it.

[Shiek927]

The 90's were nice...but we are in 2019, they already included the jv-1080 and d-50, why not expecting for something more modern such as integra/fantom? All these old romplers have their nostlagic value but I think they should have higher priority of including their most recent romplers instead of feeding the masses with old techonlogy in the form of vst.

Unless you aim for a retro sound, I doubt there's any advantage of using these old sounds compared to the high sample rate of kontakt libraries or spectrasonics products, for instance.

I completely disagree. To me, the JD is the best sounding synth ever made and I adore the unique character. I've been holding off on getting the hardware for years now because I've been waiting patiently for a vst. There's a reason Jupiters, Junos and vintage synths are always so heavily regarded. It's not about always about newness.

At this point, the JD and the V-Synth are the only big things I'm really hoping for. I'm actually planning on picking up a V-Synth hardware synth once the JD plugin comes out because I think the V-Synth is actually still pretty far off. I could be wrong, but the rate of releases are painstakingly slow and I figure they'll at least do a "Anthology 2003" or something first. Since I'm planning on using the Vintage and Dance cards with it, there's little point in me purchasing a real JD since those cards are already cloud plugins. It's better to just hold off.

But I personally have no interest in the fantom or integra. If I wanted new, pristine sounding libraries, I could easily pull up Serum, Kontakt libraries, or whatever modern stuff is out. The JD has an incredible sounding engine for a digital synth that sounds more analog than some analog synths out there. There really is nothing else like it out there. There's not much to dislike!

[Echoes in the Attic]

Roland Cloud got back to me. Said that the 303 loads fine for them in Bitwig and they don't test with Maschine. So they were no help at all.

[fmr]

303 doesn't show up in Bitwig or Maschine for me. I'm on Windows 10. Anyone else? This is a bummer.

I has errors at scanning in several hosts. But I am not THAT interested in the 303 anyway. I never understood what's all the fuss about it

I am waiting for next month. This month's treat wasn't for me

Very odd. All Roland Cloud instruments showing in all my hosts - Logic Pro X, Cubase Pro 10, Ableton Live Suite 10 and even in Zen Aud ALK 2 and Reason 10.
I wonder what are your “several hosts” that produce errors?

You quoted Logic Pro X, which means macOS. I'm in Windows.

[Echoes in the Attic]

303 doesn't show up in Bitwig or Maschine for me. I'm on Windows 10. Anyone else? This is a bummer.

I has errors at scanning in several hosts. But I am not THAT interested in the 303 anyway. I never understood what's all the fuss about it

I am waiting for next month. This month's treat wasn't for me

Very odd. All Roland Cloud instruments showing in all my hosts - Logic Pro X, Cubase Pro 10, Ableton Live Suite 10 and even in Zen Aud ALK 2 and Reason 10.
I wonder what are your “several hosts” that produce errors?

You quoted Logic Pro X, which means macOS. I'm in Windows.

Have you reported to Roland Cloud support? They actually reply very quickly. However they were pretty unhelpful, just saying it loads fine in Bitwig and they don't expect it to work in Native instruments products (WTF?).

[fmr]

The 90's were nice...but we are in 2019, they already included the jv-1080 and d-50, why not expecting for something more modern such as integra/fantom? All these old romplers have their nostlagic value but I think they should have higher priority of including their most recent romplers instead of feeding the masses with old techonlogy in the form of vst.

Unless you aim for a retro sound, I doubt there's any advantage of using these old sounds compared to the high sample rate of kontakt libraries or spectrasonics products, for instance.

You are funny. Didn't you realize yet that Roland Cloud is ALL about recreations in software of OLD machines?


WRONG!
Roland Cloud is NOT all about recreations in software of old machines.
Only the "legendary" and "anthology" sections of their catalog (plus 808/909/303) is dedicated to that. What about sections such as "flavr", "tera" and products such as "drum studio"?
You better know what you pay your rent for buddy.

Man, you reveal more and more that you know nothing about what you are talking about. "flavr", "tera" and products such as "drum studio", are nothing more than sample libraries. Even "Anthology" is a mere collection of sample libraries. They are not instrument "emulations" of anything. Actually, "anthology", "flavr" and "drum studio" run inside Concerto, which is the Sample Player, and and a rather simple one. Don't know about Tera, since I have much better pianos than anything Roland can come up with.

Do you know any hardware manufacturer that offers SIMULTAENOUSLY software versions of their hardware instruments currently on the market?

That's exactly my point. They fear of declining hardware sales, which is why they milk your money for 30 years old instruments. That's why there are way better products out there in the realm of vi's than these in the roland's cloud.

And that's OK. If I was interested in something like Integra or Fantom, I have HALion, Falcon, Kontakt, Omnisphere, etc. Lots of alternatives. But if you think there are "way better products out there in the realm of vi's than these in the roland's cloud", then what's your point being around here? Why would you want these to be for sale? Buy the "way better ones".

Besides, the Integra and the Fantom are nothing more than variations of the JV-1080 (which actually goes way beyond the 1080, up to the XV-5080). We around here aim for the JD-800/JD-990 because they had something that you CAN'T find in those "modern" Roland machines (the same way the Jupiter had, and the Juno, and the x0x machines, etc.)

WRONG AGAIN!
Integra-7 has all of the sounds from the XV-5080 + all 12 srx libraries + the SuperNATURAL sounds that you won't find in xv-5080.

So, I am missing the "SuperNATURAL". It's still samples. As I said, I have plenty of great sample players available in software that play samples with a higher degree a realism than anything "SuperNATURAL" Roland can come up with. You should know that "SuperNATURAL" is nothing more than a fancy marketing slogan.

And, if we are going for more modern machines, Roland has one that easily overpasses those Fantoms and Integra - the V-Synth. I, as well as some others, also hope to see that one - way more than any Fantom, I dare to say.

You seem to know little about the subject.

WRONG AGAIN!
I wouldn't expect to see the v-synth as a vst for the reasons I stated above.

YOU ARE THE ONE WRONG (here as in anything before). Actually, since the V-Synth isn't in production anymore, and for several years already, it is a perfect candidate for an emulation. I don't say it will be done, I say there's no reason it shouldn't, because it will not hurt hardware sales, since there is no hardware counterpart.

[Hanz Meyzer]

I find Roland now focused enough on recreating their old machines. Maybe time now to add something fresh and new?