Swingbeat; How do I do it?
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- Banned
- 3946 posts since 25 Jan, 2009
He seems too stupid to be real. A troll vendetta on Jan for something in the past? Seems to eager too diss Jan’s music as if it had something to do with the issue. Can one be that lame? I vote troll because I like to believe the best about people and that is as good as it gets as far as Mr. No One concerns.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
In other words, you can't argue any point really at all.christian f. wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:53 am Hahahaha ... you clearly don't know anything about producing swing beat or anything with a beat .
I checked the noise on your Bandcamp and it looks like you spent more time posting here than actually producing music. lmfao
This forum is your only outlet, but no one wants to hear your "music" looking at the views and your "knowledge" of this style is sub zero.
And you rather underscore that you don't know about music, everything is just a production matter. I don't produce pop music, but did show you facts about the timing which you aren't up to addressing. I was playing the drum part to Jimi Hendrix Fire (helped by a teacher) at 12 years old, big boy.
As far as you telling the world what I have or have not done, never did anything with a beat:
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- Banned
- 3946 posts since 25 Jan, 2009
Yeah and samples of 70s soul and funk records are not samples of “live recordings”. Sure, a Turing machine or something did these beats at stage or in the recording studio, while the muscians went drinking.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Someone who never ventured outside the box of what's provided for you postures 'educate yourself'. Yeah, there is education here for your sorry ass, but no.
Every Dunning-Kruger Effect proof knows better, always has it all sussed, even when they can't so much as read the question in the test fully.
Every Dunning-Kruger Effect proof knows better, always has it all sussed, even when they can't so much as read the question in the test fully.
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- Banned
- 3946 posts since 25 Jan, 2009
Oh, I think “this example” referred to my simple illustration that beats can be made free hand with loops. I do not even think he checked your examples. Perceptual defence toward threatening evidence, so he has no clue ftm that his shit is already down the drain.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Ah, you're right, you did post an example. If you look at his profile you will soon find this is his argumentative style.
Reaktor, for instance is just a mess and too hard to use which is agreed upon by all exponents of a genre. When called out for stating an opinion as a fact, it becomes 'keep that post count up!'.
Real quality education you got going there, "christian f".
Reaktor, for instance is just a mess and too hard to use which is agreed upon by all exponents of a genre. When called out for stating an opinion as a fact, it becomes 'keep that post count up!'.
Real quality education you got going there, "christian f".
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
This is urban music and has nothing to do with analysing or record live drummers and then turn those into break beats. ALL the famous songs from that era are SAMPLED beats from 60/70's soul funk records.
And the samples grow on samples trees, fully formed once they're grown. No one ever played an actual drum beat to be sampled. And never mind the association in 1989 specifically between Bobby Brown and LA Reid. Before that, Teddy Riley.
Musicians.
You can't think your way thru a wet paper bag.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Bobby Brown started as a live act in a band. The New Jack Swing was started with Teddy Riley, who played a number of instruments, and it is claimed at wikipedia 'a child prodigy' on the several instruments.
Where did the rhythmic style for this 'genre' come from? When did beats assume the particular shape for to be a new genre like that? If it's supposed to be samples - from when, from where - how is there a new style. Is it all pure hype? No, there is a difference. If you knew anything about music, you would be able to do this thing you disrespect: *analyze* it for the swing element. If you were't a total Dunning-Kruger Effect case, you would have an intellectual curiosity enough to want to know how shit works.
But no. You're a posturing know-nothing and all talk. And your talk is as good as the quality of your knowledge. Zilchville.
Where did the rhythmic style for this 'genre' come from? When did beats assume the particular shape for to be a new genre like that? If it's supposed to be samples - from when, from where - how is there a new style. Is it all pure hype? No, there is a difference. If you knew anything about music, you would be able to do this thing you disrespect: *analyze* it for the swing element. If you were't a total Dunning-Kruger Effect case, you would have an intellectual curiosity enough to want to know how shit works.
But no. You're a posturing know-nothing and all talk. And your talk is as good as the quality of your knowledge. Zilchville.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Whatever happened that day in New York, that was the vibe Brown wanted all over this next project — funky, fun and … different from everything that was happening in R&B music at the time. MCA Records brought him two producers to help shape his vision, but Brown wasn’t sure they could help. Kenneth “Babyface” Edmonds and Antonio “L.A.” Reid didn’t look the part when Brown first met them.
“I was flabbergasted. I almost busted out in tears,” Brown said. “They didn’t know how to dress. I don’t know where they got their gear from, but it wasn’t [a] style I would choose for anyone. I had to tell them they have to stop wearing suits and dark shades. But they had their own flavor … so I just accepted it.”
And when he heard the first pieces of music the duo had for him? He still wasn’t sure it was the right fit. “They had really smooth, well-written songs,”
They had songs for him. They wrote songs, they actually made the beats. But no, your understanding evidently is limited to "knowing" "you layer the samples".
I'm picturing a little white dude in Germany {"christian f"} lecturing us on 'Urban Music', you know from the vantage point of knowing there were samples forming certain things.
EG: U Can't Touch This; the bass line came from Super Freak, played by Big Money Brown (on a record containing a tenor sax solo, btw).
But no, all you need is teh layering samples for teh Urban Style.
“I was flabbergasted. I almost busted out in tears,” Brown said. “They didn’t know how to dress. I don’t know where they got their gear from, but it wasn’t [a] style I would choose for anyone. I had to tell them they have to stop wearing suits and dark shades. But they had their own flavor … so I just accepted it.”
And when he heard the first pieces of music the duo had for him? He still wasn’t sure it was the right fit. “They had really smooth, well-written songs,”
They had songs for him. They wrote songs, they actually made the beats. But no, your understanding evidently is limited to "knowing" "you layer the samples".
I'm picturing a little white dude in Germany {"christian f"} lecturing us on 'Urban Music', you know from the vantage point of knowing there were samples forming certain things.
EG: U Can't Touch This; the bass line came from Super Freak, played by Big Money Brown (on a record containing a tenor sax solo, btw).
But no, all you need is teh layering samples for teh Urban Style.
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
"Breakbeats" - eg., Amen break, which originally is the break from Amen, Brother. Once upon a time, played by Gregory C. Coleman of The Winstons.
Samples, EG: Mary, Mary, The Monkees. I was playing that beat in 1967.
Samples, EG: Mary, Mary, The Monkees. I was playing that beat in 1967.
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- KVRAF
- 43957 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
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- KVRist
- 445 posts since 3 Feb, 2017
Grandpa, you seriously took the time to research and quote wikipedia. Like I don't know what a breakbeat is lol.
And ... I'm from LA. There's hundreds of irrelevant guys here like you with credits from the 60s.
It's 2019 ...no one cares for that anymore and no one cares for your music and "beats" either.
This topic is more poppin' than all your videos combined.
You're a pale red haired caucasian born in 1950. Wtf do you know about hiphop ?
If you at least have given relevant examples I could take you serious :
You're a professional forum poster spreading mis information (if not quoted from wikipedia) .. clearly NOT a producer with any relevant experience in Hiphop or any other Urban style music.
And ... I'm from LA. There's hundreds of irrelevant guys here like you with credits from the 60s.
It's 2019 ...no one cares for that anymore and no one cares for your music and "beats" either.
This topic is more poppin' than all your videos combined.
You're a pale red haired caucasian born in 1950. Wtf do you know about hiphop ?
If you at least have given relevant examples I could take you serious :
You're a professional forum poster spreading mis information (if not quoted from wikipedia) .. clearly NOT a producer with any relevant experience in Hiphop or any other Urban style music.
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- Banned
- 3946 posts since 25 Jan, 2009
You just won’t give up even despite the fact that you have nothing but ad hominem excuses to deliver to replace your failed arguments.
That is below stupidity and rather scum or creep-like
Go do some trainsurfing ffs and give human evolution a chance to have its saying to this as well.