Reaper account activation issue

[Psuper]

Yes! Absolutely! That guy has doe a great job of breaking things down. Wish i had found that a week ago.
It is a really great community though. Never seen a DAW forum where people are so helpful...ever.
Same goes with the company - their whole model is really admirable. It just makes you want to be a part of it. I really hope i can make it work with reaper. My search for the right modern DAW as been long and tiresome.

Absolutely. If anything the community frowns upon people who criticize constructive negative feedback - it's like everyone actually wants Reaper to succeed or something... whodathunk.

yeah i am actually finding it quite inspiring. I just really want to find a permanent DAW home at the moment. I have been through so damn many in recent years. This one, although it felt like a bit of a nightmare at first, feels like one can make it act like an extension of oneself.
And they keep moving fast, updates all the time etc.
There is also a lot of room to grow with this DAW.

I see reason is in your tagline - is that your main DAW?

I'm right there with you, it was the maturity of the Reaper community and active developers that drew me to it. Once you get familiar with Reaper, you can't imagine going back to expensive bloatware DAWS and greedy schemes.

Propellerheads, Reason and I have a very, very long history. Suffice to say I've always wanted it to be my primary DAW and have done everything humanly possible to make it so, however it's back to being a rewired device, and being utilized less and less. I love Reason, always have, and constructed hundreds of constructive posts over our 14 year stint. However my sum today would be that Reason would be better served in the hands of other capable developers who genuinely care about, and put first, the community, the RE devs, and the future of Reason.

Regardless, I'm not an emotionally tied kind of person like most -- I use what makes sense for me. Brand loyalty comes from the top down to me, not from me up to the top.

[sl23]

MuLab is my first choice tho as it's much easier to use.

While MuLAB definitely has some things going for it, one thing I am absolutely annoyed at it is that you have to CLICK on a submenu to open the next level of the menu. Or did Jo change that recently (didn't check on MuLAB in about a year or so)? That sort of thing is making his DAW unnecessarily more complicated and slower to use.

Oh and MIDI editor in MuLAB is totally not fast to use compared to Reaper's (protip: mouse modifiers).

Yeah I definitely agree with the menu thing! That is something that should be addressed. Would make things easier

[DavidCarlyon]

Yes! Absolutely! That guy has doe a great job of breaking things down. Wish i had found that a week ago.
It is a really great community though. Never seen a DAW forum where people are so helpful...ever.
Same goes with the company - their whole model is really admirable. It just makes you want to be a part of it. I really hope i can make it work with reaper. My search for the right modern DAW as been long and tiresome.

Absolutely. If anything the community frowns upon people who criticize constructive negative feedback - it's like everyone actually wants Reaper to succeed or something... whodathunk.

yeah i am actually finding it quite inspiring. I just really want to find a permanent DAW home at the moment. I have been through so damn many in recent years. This one, although it felt like a bit of a nightmare at first, feels like one can make it act like an extension of oneself.
And they keep moving fast, updates all the time etc.
There is also a lot of room to grow with this DAW.

I see reason is in your tagline - is that your main DAW?

I'm right there with you, it was the maturity of the Reaper community and active developers that drew me to it. Once you get familiar with Reaper, you can't imagine going back to expensive bloatware DAWS and greedy schemes.

Propellerheads, Reason and I have a very, very long history. Suffice to say I've always wanted it to be my primary DAW and have done everything humanly possible to make it so, however it's back to being a rewired device, and being utilized less and less. I love Reason, always have, and constructed hundreds of constructive posts over our 14 year stint. However my sum today would be that Reason would be better served in the hands of other capable developers who genuinely care about, and put first, the community, the RE devs, and the future of Reason.

Regardless, I'm not an emotionally tied kind of person like most -- I use what makes sense for me. Brand loyalty comes from the top down to me, not from me up to the top.

Yeah that is certainly what i have found with the reaper community. Its amazing.
I have felt the same way with bitwig, even ableton. But in recent times, i have really wanted to make Bitwig my number 1. There is so much i like about it, but it really doesn't look like that is ever going to happen, plus it is really inefficient, which is a big one for me.

Now that i have put some time into customizing reaper, it is going to be difficult going to a program that doesn't allow for any of those things.

All this and i am not even used to it yet!! If i carry on with Reaper for the next year, i can't even imagine how fast it will be!!

The only other one that has even made me look twice since discovering Reaper is Digital Performer. But i just don;t think it will offer a fraction of what Reaper does.
Even the other 'efficient' DAW that i used - Studio One - is not likely to get any use now. Once you get past the initial shock of reaper...and work out what the hell is going on, it is like you have unlocked some kind of pandoras box of DAWs!!

I just need to stick with it now. I have been through so many DAWs this last year that i feel dizzy...learning all new shortcuts, layouts etc etc. But the thing with reaper is once you commit all that stuff to muscle memory, you will be faster than you ever could be in another DAW

[chk071]

I'm right there with you, it was the maturity of the Reaper community and active developers that drew me to it. Once you get familiar with Reaper, you can't imagine going back to expensive bloatware DAWS and greedy schemes.

Oh, you can (I've beem there). Even though "bloatware DAW's" and "greedy schemes" is a very subjective way of putting it. It's also very arguable that Reaper is in any way cheap. Someone who makes a living of what he does with Reaper needs a commercial license, and at $225, it is not exactly very cheap compared to other hosts, especially when you consider the total lack of content, compared to other hosts.

[DavidCarlyon]

I'm right there with you, it was the maturity of the Reaper community and active developers that drew me to it. Once you get familiar with Reaper, you can't imagine going back to expensive bloatware DAWS and greedy schemes.

Oh, you can (I've beem there). Even though "bloatware DAW's" and "greedy schemes" is a very subjective way of putting it. It's also very arguable that Reaper is in any way cheap. Someone who makes a living of what he does with Reaper needs a commercial license, and at $225, it is not exactly very cheap compared to other hosts, especially when you consider the total lack of content, compared to other hosts.

Yeah that is true i suppose. Other than ableton, i have never had a DAW that provided content i actually used. So i suppose value is derived from how much you use the contents of the package.

Also it depends what DAW you compare it to i suppose - Bitwig is £250 and then £100+ a year
Ableton around £550 for the big package.

I think the bottom line for me is - I just want the best DAW for my needs. Price matters, but it is nowhere near one of the top criteria. I just want to find something i can stay with now.
I already found a number that i really liked, but none of them managed to do everything i needed. i suppose one of the benefits of Reaper is you can bend it to your will.

May i ask, what did you change to in the end?

[chk071]

The content argument is fair enough for sure. I never used much of the DAW included content as well, but, it has its price, and that has to be calculated into.

From Reaper, i think i first switched to Cubase Elements (which i upgraded from Cubase LE, which i got from a mazaine's DVD), and then upgraded to Cubase Artist at some point. I then bought a used copy of Studio One Producer, and upgraded that to Pro. IMO, Reaper really has to work for you. It didn't for me, i never got used to the menus, layout, looks, and the lack of mouse tools in the MIDI editor.

[DavidCarlyon]

The content argument is fair enough for sure. I never used much of the DAW included content as well, but, it has its price, and that has to be calculated into.

From Reaper, i think i first switched to Cubase Elements (which i upgraded from Cubase LE, which i got from a mazaine's DVD), and then upgraded to Cubase Artist at some point. I then bought a used copy of Studio One Producer, and upgraded that to Pro. IMO, Reaper really has to work for you. It didn't for me, i never got used to the menus, layout, looks, and the lack of mouse tools in the MIDI editor.

Yeah, to be honest, i always take people reasons as valid when it comes to DAWs. because ultimately, it's how you work in them.

I just came from studio one, from bitwig, before that ableton, etc etc. Studio One is the other DAW i could be completely comfortable in forever. I love biteig and ableton for jamming in, they are so fun and inspiring. Studio One just has a wonderful workflow, for sure. It is more deep than people give credit for, too. All in all, i think it is easily one of the absolute best, particularly in the 'Linear' world.

When i came to reaper from that, literally a week and a bit ago, i was like 'how the hell do i make anything work'
thats what i did when i first tried reaper too...a couple of months back, then just ran away in a hurry.
Truth is i was actually very comfortable in studio one and know it really well. But i have moved around so much i thought 'what difference is one more going to make at this point?'
This time round i took a solid week (eeeek) to fully jump in and customise everything as fully as i could.
What i have found is i can replicate almost everything i was doing in studio one (behaviour wise)

Now, i still love the track pad, the arranger track and the samplers/step sequencer. Not to mention it works with my Raven. But thus far i am finding a lot of benefits from Reaper.

i think the tough thing is, with DAWs only time will tell. Because you have to learn something inside out. S1 is definitely quicker to learn. It is so well designed that it instantly feels like home. But i am really interested to see how far i can get with creating the ideal DAW experience in Reaper. I was amazed how far i got in just one week, so i am gonna take it further!!

Out of pure curiosity, what kind of music do you make?

[MuTools]

MuLab is my first choice tho as it's much easier to use.

While MuLAB definitely has some things going for it, one thing I am absolutely annoyed at it is that you have to CLICK on a submenu to open the next level of the menu. Or did Jo change that recently (didn't check on MuLAB in about a year or so)? That sort of thing is making his DAW unnecessarily more complicated and slower to use.

Yeah I definitely agree with the menu thing! That is something that should be addressed. Would make things easier

The next MuLab 8.0.47 beta automatically opens sub-menus on mouse hold. Available soon, watch the MuTools forum.

[EvilDragon]

At last!

[EvilDragon]

It didn't for me, i never got used to the menus, layout, looks, and the lack of mouse tools in the MIDI editor.

Well, the menus and layout you can adjust for the greater part. Which mouse tools in MIDI editor? You mean something like this?

[DavidCarlyon]

It didn't for me, i never got used to the menus, layout, looks, and the lack of mouse tools in the MIDI editor.

Well, the menus and layout you can adjust for the greater part. Which mouse tools in MIDI editor? You mean something like this?

I can attest to this. I was so confused at first with the mouse behaviour (in general actually) but the Reaper forum is incredibly useful for this.

I have never used an editing setup as complete as reapers, with its mouse modifier options.
It can be extremely overwhelming at first, but sticking with it brings incredible results.

cmd+left click in the bottom half of media item duplictates for me. If i do the same command in an empy space, it duplicates selection.
Right click in bottom half of media item does a 'normalize' action that i made where it normalizes item and then turns down -6db.
Would probably be strange to someone else, but you can just set it up how you want.

[sl23]

The next MuLab 8.0.47 beta automatically opens sub-menus on mouse hold. Available soon, watch the MuTools forum.

Thank you for changing this it's so much better! And has a delay setting too! Excellent

[chk071]

It didn't for me, i never got used to the menus, layout, looks, and the lack of mouse tools in the MIDI editor.

Well, the menus and layout you can adjust for the greater part. Which mouse tools in MIDI editor? You mean something like this?

Reaper in a nutshell.

That's what i meant with "it has to work for you". I'm not someone who likes to adjust things, or who wants to install scripts for functionality. A DAW for me has to work the way i want out of the box. Don't get me wrong, if you are a experienced user, and know exactly what you want, and you like the possibilities Reapers offers you (i guess that's its strong point) in terms of flexibility, cool. I know that pretty well applies to you, so, i'm not surprised that you like Reaper, because it offers you what you are after. I'm after a streamlined program, which makes life easy for me, and which requires as few clicks and menus as possible to get where i want to get. That's why i'm probably just not the target audience for Reaper.

I just realized that this mutated into something entirely different than the OP suggested, sorry for that.

[EvilDragon]

Chances of finding a DAW that "thinks" exactly like you out of the box are probably pretty slim. Which is why I very much appreciate being able to just TELL the DAW how I want it to work exactly. Not much chance of doing that with nearly any other DAW out there. Cubase is more flexible than most, but still pales by comparison to what you can do in Reaper, flexibility-wise. S1 isn't even worth a mention in this regard. It's pretty much their way or the highway, and one thing that made it more flexible and featured (that extension that one guy wrote) got pulled from the interwebs, woop dee doo.


Anyways yeah let's try to get back to the topic

[sl23]

I think any DAW will not feel intuitive at the beginning. But that is different for each person. I tried FL Studio, Ableton and Reaper. out of the 3 Reaper was the least confusing.

You're right, there's always learning curve with new software. But MuLab curve is almost non existent.