Studio One 4 v Reaper Comparison

[xbitz]

The essence of drag and drop is something we learned from as young as 6 months old, and by the age of 4 where kids consciously understand how to use an IPAD and the system of drag and drop.

Studio one, the DAW of choice for all the 4 year old producers.
Or.
Reaper, a Daw for adults to make music with.

I feel like Reaper is the DAW for people that don't mind driving their car with a smashed window

Also the car is a used Reliant Robin.

- The Grand Tour

[generaldiomedes]

Workflow, workflow, workflow. And it’s not reaper.

[Kalamata Kid]

Studio One 4 no comparison. If you have an older computer Reaper might be the better choice. Presonus has hardware integration (atom, faderport, interfaces), melodyne (better integration than Reaper), better browser, stock sounds, chord track, scratch pad, and the list goes on.

Glad for this thread as I am very close to decide on Reaper 5.9/6.0 or Studio One 4. Cubase is a lesser contender. All three have or will have ARA. I was wondering which DAW has the best ARA/Melodyne implementation. Well Studio One was the original ARA but do wonder if it now runs with ARA2.

Reaper is in the lead to be my main DAW by the slimmest of margins but it will shift to S1 if the ARA is better implemented.

Another issue it midi which Cubase wins but who wins between Reaper and S1?

Thirdly is chord Progression assistant/corrector/generate. Which DAW is best?

[swindus]

The Studio One ARA implementation is already ARA2.

[enroe]

Yeah, some thoughts about that ...

Appearance wise, you can certainly judge the value of a DAW based upon it's GUI and first appearance on screen. In fact, this is something you have no actual control over in deciding, it's an automotive response that is made in a matter of nanoseconds. It's from this that your thoughts and reasoning are made in which this is based on. There is no right or wrong...it's just the way it is. It all comes down to the amount of metal processing and that of memory to learn and retain all that information to achieve an objective vie the processes or functions involved to make something happen.

That's true: The first spontaneous impression psychologically counts.
But as an adult you know this, and you can hopefully reflect this mechanismen and overcome this obstacle of perception.

So as an adult you should know that a DAW is such a complex software
that the first spontaneous GUI-impression doesn't say anything.

The essence of drag and drop is something we learned from as young as 6 months old, and by the age of 4 where kids consciously understand how to use an IPAD and the system of drag and drop ... it's a process of simplicity that once you are use to it, that you will definitely feel the loss of or feel limited by if the DAW you are using is more stripped down in this area, as it's a natural instinctive mental process one learns.

Of course, as a kid at the age of 4 I'd love drag and drop.
But in the daily work on complex arrangements "drag and drop"
is completely irrelevant. Almost everything is done by keycommands
much faster.

Trying to get them to understand a complex menu system with 10 to 20 word explanations as Reaper has, isn't. Personally I find it ridiculous that Reapers menus are like that out of the virtual box.

That's a point. On the other hand in Reaper you can customize all menus
just as you like them.

I really don't see how not being given a suite of decent effects and instruments is any benefit. It's like saying to someone that you don't want any cake that's been given to you, when you are starving.

Haha, maybe you tend to some whimsical analogies?

For me all these "extra-synths" are like there is a delivery service
which crams your department full. It places all sorts of stuff that
you just don't need - and that you never will use. More than that:
All this bloatware stuff turns down your creativity.
So my first action always is: Get rid of this bloatware clutter-stuff!

But yeah, some musicians really like this extra-stuff. Maybe these
are musicians who don't know what they want - and so they
jump on the first proposal they can see?

[EvilDragon]

but who wins between Reaper and S1?

Reaper. Supports sysex (you can actually record sysex directly from your external synths into MIDI items then edit afterwards if you're so inclined, AFAIK no way to do that in S1), 14-bit MIDI CCs, text events/lyrics, notation, and it is actually faster to work with due to flexible mouse modifiers (including some cool ones like arpeggiate).

Also has a bunch of flexible scripts for tweaking CCs made by juliansader, which ultimately trample all over S1's Transform tool.

[Kongru]

Another issue it midi which Cubase wins but who wins between Reaper and S1?

100% not Reaper for midi.

Also you can try Studio One 4 Pro for 3 days over at Splice.

[EvilDragon]

100% yes Reaper for MIDI. S1 is just not fleshed out to the same level of MIDI support. And Cockos guys are working on something tasty for CC lanes, too...

Also 3 days is not enough for a tryout.

[kmonkey]

I keep hearing good things about Reaper. I tried it once but it was let down for me. Interface was terrible and MIDI editing was weird when compared to Cubase or FL Studio. But honestly i could sense that below there is something unique in Reaper.

Small footprint, load up in second, CPU usage and plugin worked best out all DAW apps i ever tried. I also see community is great and there is a alot of skins and all that. Just that workflow thing and appearance thing never clicked with me.

I am waiting for Reaper 6 to see what they will improve or not. Maybe i jump on it.

And yes i agree with EvilDragon - 3 days is no enough You have to test it better.

[Kongru]

Interface was terrible and MIDI editing was weird when compared to Cubase or FL Studio.

My thoughts exactly, I guess some people just have more patience than me.

And yes i agree with EvilDragon - 3 days is no enough You have to test it better.

Splice offers a 3 day trial however you could continue into the first month and then cancel the subscription near the last day, effectively paying $16.99 for a month long trial.

[xbitz]

14 days trial ... https://splice.com/daws/38650984-studio ... y-presonus

[Kongru]

14 days trial ... https://splice.com/daws/38650984-studio ... y-presonus

Oh that's good, I never noticed that Studio One has a longer demo. All of the plugins are 3 days.

You can actually try Studio One 4 Pro for 30 days on the Presonus website: https://www.presonus.com/products/studi ... studio-one

[EvilDragon]

MIDI editing was weird when compared to Cubase or FL Studio.

By tweaking mouse modifiers you can get majority of MIDI editing behaviors from FL Studio in Reaper... Or you can have a play with them and figure out your own even better layout of mouse modifiers for even better productivity/workflow.

Some things like i.e. warping MIDI CC events in various ways are available via scripts - they are pretty powerful and in some ways even more advanced than similar warping options in Cubase or S1 or whatever.



Last time I checked you can't do many of the things from the above GIF in S1 (the transform tool can compress, expand invert or warp, but nothing like reveal nodes and inserting ramps with adjustable curvature or the custom arching etc.).

[LawrenceF]

For me all these "extra-synths" are like there is a delivery servicewhich crams your department full. It places all sorts of stuff that
you just don't need - and that you never will use. More than that:
All this bloatware stuff turns down your creativity.
So my first action always is: Get rid of this bloatware clutter-stuff!

Not really. People just like to use the word "bloat" when they fight over their superhero toys on the web because it makes them feel better. The truth of the matter is that the 30+ gb of content for Studio One is 100% optional and nobody has to download or use any of it and only 1 of it's instruments actually even needs any it to make sound. And it takes all of 5 seconds to hide all of their instruments if you have no need for them.

So much nonsense on the web. Load your samples all day in ReaSampler, a decent sampler in Reaper, but Sample One XT, an easily arguably better instrument, is "bloat". Gosh.

[chk071]

If you need it, it's great, if you don't, it's bloat.