What one bit of Music Theory was really helpful that caused your songwriting to improve ?

[jancivil]

Oh, as to the notion of IncarnateX and I as a team or whatever, he's the one person I know who called me a "piece of shit" directly here. We do happen to agree on what constitutes making some kind of argument or even a f**king point, though.


An analogy has to make some kind of sense, or 'it's funny 'cause it's true', or it's just more proof of not being able to form a thought. Ren and Stimpy, one of them is the idiot. The other says 'You EEDIOT!'.
Ren sounds like Peter Lorre; Stimpy sounds like Larry Fine of the Three Stooges.

[IncarnateX]

no. what i mean that loops allow you to same time and focus on other things you want to work on. same as buying pre-packaged presets for VSTs. but nice derail attempt.

so, did you like that nicky minaj fart post? it was good, no?

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[jancivil]

Oh, for not reading your "mind" - in preference to what you actually said: My own personal take on use of loops is , it's a cheap short cut ... But I guess it's no different that buying presets for Diva or Massive.
is twisted into this word "derailing" which you appear to be stuck on. You, who literally has offered not_a_single_thought regarding the single light bulb moment from "Music Theory" (caps in the original) which improved your writing is now stuck on "derailing" as a diss.

"no different than", then, in your revision and explanation of what you "meant" has no meaning, by your own words, then.

[IncarnateX]

Where do you make room for all that shit at home anyway, @teletubbie? You must be rich and have a major house....or....wait...recycling??? Eeeeew!!!!

[telecode]

use of loops no different that buying presets for Diva or Massive.

/sic

Just further proof of cluelessness. Use of a construction kit, which was the goal you threw an airball at, is the end user is given phrases and beats (meaning drum parts). Using a preset in a synth product is, for example one I used and really dug was 'Old Suitcase' in some Reaktor thing which came up in the Kore browser. It didn't really do 'old suitcase' Rhodes piano but it was a bright and musical piano patch which was my goal anyway. I wrote the f**king part. There was no loop.
OTOH what I use in say VSL Percussion's Thundersheet are performances. Loops. I use them. I can make them work in certain cases. You literally do not know what I do and have zero interest really in what my thought is. But you want to create a stupid little straw.man, which is all you, to try and look like you're talking about the thing. You aren't. You never are. Bullshit artist par excellence, though.

Slow_Clap.

So keep showing us what you don't know. That's a return to the topic 'What one bit of Music Theory was really helpful that caused your songwriting to improve?'?
It 100% is not on that topic. You can't speak to the topic, but you have to speak and shitpost anyway

oh. so, in other words you do agree with telecode. it's a lot more handy to use a preset than it is to start from scratch from an init and make your own unique original sound. no kidding. so i guess if you spent $30 on a preset pack, you will probably save yourself a lot of time and effort. that's just amazing. who would have thought?

so in essence, using a preset saves you a lot of time and effort in the creation process so you can focus on creating your creative work of art. well, the same rules apply to EDM and DJs and other artists that use loops. I personally don't use loops myself because I do enjoy spending hours putting other drum parts and adjusting dynamics of rhythm parts.. but if I didn't enjoy it and wanted to save time, i would most probably use loops. Why not.

[telecode]

Where do you make room for all that shit at home anyway, @teletubbie? You must be rich and have a major house....or....wait...recycling??? Eeeeew!!!!

careful what you post. you might be accidentally revealing that you are in high school still.

[jancivil]

no. what i mean that loops allow you to same time and focus on other things you want to work on

Focus on other things... such as what?

Let's review: What I said basically was writing /your own stuff/ involves flow. Then you told me off for something I never did, which seems to be wrapped up in me addressing loops. (Thoughtfully, from my own use case scenario.)
During which: you said is choosing a preset is "not different than" using loops.

You're the one who seeks to change what was said into something on your level in order to talk shit. I'm talking ideas.

So I subsequently stated a use case FOR loops. In which I'm working within my idea. My idea, note well. So what I was saying, let me reinforce it, is reliance on loops in lieu of your own writing, of a drum part, of a melodic line, the usual sort of basic fabric of a musical composition in this one, accessible sense, is not as rich as getting your own hands involved in it all along. I stand by my points.
Then either X or myself is Ren and the other Stimpy because we tag team your ass.

SO, what are you needing to bypass by the use of loops? Why would *you* be in such a hurry to produce something you can't be arsed to make yourself, exactly? What is the _actual_ argument? This is just some bullshit.

[telecode]

Oh, as to the notion of IncarnateX and I as a team or whatever, he's the one person I know who called me a "piece of shit" directly here. We do happen to agree on what constitutes making some kind of argument or even a f**king point, though.


An analogy has to make some kind of sense, or 'it's funny 'cause it's true', or it's just more proof of not being able to form a thought. Ren and Stimpy, one of them is the idiot. The other says 'You EEDIOT!'.
Ren sounds like Peter Lorre; Stimpy sounds like Larry Fine of the Three Stooges.

i changed me mind. you two should start a duo called "the derailers". grump old men is too out of your league.

[Stamped Records]

The thing about loops, is that it might be a time saver, but only if you know how, otherwise, it's not a time saver, it's an effort saver, and the two are not even in the same galaxy.

On the other hand, I listen to loops sometimes and as perfectly as they go with my track, I know deep down it's not a timesaver to use it, because I would never have done it with those sounds, that processing, that groove and that mix balance. Somebody, somewhere, gets paid to do what they do BEST, as in, better than everyone else, and the people who can't do it, use it, that's loops.

The side-effect is that the same highly skilled people who make loops have congested the music industry that they could have used to earn, but they may otherwise be unmusical and that's why they make loops in the first place, I dunno. All I know, is that there is a lot of work in making loops, I don't know how they do it to be honest. Are they raping their finished tracks for the loops or do they actually make them? I suspect that loops are an evolved thing more than a created thing, one loop evolves into ten loops over time sort of thing, perhaps.

[IncarnateX]

careful what you post. you might be accidentally revealing that you are in high school still.

As if you would have any idea what that is in the first place, my sweet little elementary school drop out.

[IncarnateX]

Anyway @teletubbie, when your ass tells you to spam a music theory forum with trailer park music journalism, is it really because it thinks that it has anything at all to say related to theory, or does it just want to troll due to inferiority complexes, you think?

[jancivil]

"you might be accidentally revealing that you are in high school still"

Here's the thing, though, you have to show what would make anything have that impression. You can't argue your way thru a wet paper bag, and the quality of insult itself is the one reliably juvenile expression in the thread (as per usual). Like every stupid troll who was ever born, it's all projection of your own shit once push comes to shove.
You have literally said nothing to the point of 'what one bit of theory was the lightbulb moment in your music'.

I have issues, I'm entertained by pointing out how stupid a literal f**king moron is being. It does not make me look particularly together, does it?

[jancivil]

The thing about loops, is that it might be a time saver...

The thing is we have people who find they are in a hurry to "Produce" and have yet to find it appropriate to develop the skillset to write a drum track, have nothing driving them to try and see how drumming works by their hands, don't want to know anything (of chord progression, how a bassline works in a progression or with the harmony, etc) because today they believe they can stick all of this prefab business in a sequencer 'DAW' and get away with putting their own name on the thing. Someone last week argued they are like the producer in the real world working with session musicians, like they have the vision and instead of working with musicians are just getting busy executing their vision.

It's flat delusional.

[telecode]

"you might be accidentally revealing that you are in high school still"

Here's the thing, though, you have to show what would make anything have that impression. You can't argue your way thru a wet paper bag, and the quality of insult itself is the one reliably juvenile expression in the thread (as per usual). Like every stupid troll who was ever born, it's all projection of your own shit once push comes to shove.
You have literally said nothing to the point of 'what one bit of theory was the lightbulb moment in your music'.

I have issues, I'm entertained by pointing out how stupid a literal f**king moron is being. It does not make me look particularly together, does it?

What makes me think he might be a highschooler is his masterful command of grammar and prose.

[jancivil]

Yeah don't worry your little bent head about the room's perception of me, boyo. Hilarious. The desperation is coming off of you in waves.