KVR Audio

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:15 pm

IncarnateX wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:10 pm Fork you

no thanks I prefer hardware

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:24 pm

Things don't sound good as they should until they are (properly) mixed. The whole "digital vs analog" war is meaningless.

donkey tugger · Post by **donkey tugger** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:34 pm

Hink wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:15 pm
IncarnateX wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:10 pm Fork you
no thanks I prefer hardware

It might break down, that's always the whisk.

christian f. · Post by **christian f.** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:42 pm

At the moment I'm stripping my (overkill) setup, so I'm in the midst of carefully comparing my soft synths with vintage, modern and modular and one thing is clear for me ...there's NOTHING like the sound of vintage gear and I very much prefer that sound.

Modern synths sound and feel like soft synths to me,
so I rather have a set of high end plugs ins than one or two modern hardware.

stratum · Post by **stratum** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:47 pm

Hardware takes one click to turn on whereas software requires 5, if the audio interface driver doesn't think it's April 1. Then it's about 72.

Boone777 · Post by **Boone777** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:15 pm

My grandma's farts sound better. It's analog.

christian f. · Post by **christian f.** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:41 pm

Boone777 wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:15 pm My grandma's farts sound better. It's analog.

How would you know ? With your computer specs you probably can't even play a chord with Diva in Divine mode. Why would you list this anyway ? Serious question.

Boone777 · Post by **Boone777** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:12 pm

The difference compared to software is the wind coming out wich creates movement on the microphone.

deastman · Post by **deastman** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:19 pm

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:26 pm

This thread needs help. Most of you are avoiding the question and those who answer it are wrong. So here are some hypotheses to think about. (I think someone actually put the first one forward somewhere, cannot remember who, so I will pretend I came up with it on my own.)

So why will software people not just admit that hardware sound better?

1. They do not own any piece of hardware and do not have a clue. Nothing to admit. Sheer ignorance only. Plausible in KVR context.

2. They do have a clue but need to justify buying 567 softsynths at a price 100 times higher than a decent piece of hardware. Highly plausible in KVR context.

3. They know hardware sounds better but just hate to admit it because they often have claimed the opposite and realised their failure later. Plausible in KVR context.

4. They have bought the software first, asked themselves why afterwards, and have inferred the conclusion that it must be because it sounds as good as- or better than the hardware. Extremely plausible in KVR context

5. They are deaf or

6. They are stupid or

7. Both. Plausible in wider life context, including KVR.

And that is just a few. If you want more, you can ask me to write them in this thread instead of mailing me long fan-letters. I do not have time to read them all, anyway.

donkey tugger · Post by **donkey tugger** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:30 pm

Are you Theresa May?

stratum · Post by **stratum** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:31 pm

(8) Perhaps they don't care.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:32 pm

donkey tugger wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:30 pm Are you Theresa May?

Rather Queen Margrethe.

IncarnateX · Post by **IncarnateX** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:39 pm

stratum wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:31 pm (8) Perhaps they don't care.

As in “being ignorant” ? Already covered in 1) , 6) and 7)

Of course, a softsynth guy who says he does not care cannot be trusted. This just begs the question.

pekbro · Post by **pekbro** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:40 pm

From my limited experience, they don’t behave the same and therefore sound different. IMO hardware sounds better, even hardware that’s driven by software, which is largely the case nowdays. Despite all the cool math, models of the way electricity behaves can never truly be accurate because it’s impossible to account for every variable.

A reasonable facsimile is one thing, but that’s all they are. Like it or not.

Why will software people not admit hardware sounds better?