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bbreakz · Post by **bbreakz** » Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:52 am

I still get error messages after installing Surge on Mac / El Capitan.. says it's not installed properly

esaruoho · Post by **esaruoho** » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:02 am

bbreakz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:52 am I still get error messages after installing Surge on Mac / El Capitan.. says it's not installed properly

start by wiping both /Library/Application Support/Surge/* and /Users/you/Library/Application Support/Surge

while all music apps are closed
then go to /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/ and wipe Components/Surge.component and VST/Surge.vst and VST3/Surge.vst3 and then go to /Users/you/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins and wipe Components/Surge.component and VST/Surge.vst and VST3/Surge.vst3

then re-run the installer and see what happens after successful install.

good luck!

esaruoho · Post by **esaruoho** » Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:03 am

layzer wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:13 pmadd to it the wav loading of v1.5

Query, what happens if you drag in a 50mb wavefile, as opposed to a oneshot wavefile? could you take some screenshots of what the 50mb wavefile looks like, etc? Would really help

ENV1 · Post by **ENV1** » Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:25 am

esaruoho wrote:Query, what happens if you drag in a 50mb wavefile, as opposed to a oneshot wavefile? could you take some screenshots of what the 50mb wavefile looks like, etc? Would really help

I think its safe to assume that a 50MB file simply wouldnt load at all because it would be way longer than what the plugin accepts.

As ive pointed out on page 37, Surge does not take WAVs longer than 2.728 seconds. If they are shorter than that then Surge will load them, but even then the maximum length played seems to be around 20,480 samples.

Example: I take a sample from the pinball machine Fire Power, in this case the word 'Accomplished'. The format is PCM signed 16 bit, 44100 Hz, 1411 kbps, stereo. The sample is precisely 0.980726 seconds long, or 43,250 in samples. Surge loads the WAV just fine, but it does not play the sample all the way to the end. When triggered it only plays up to about 'Accom' and then it stops, i.e. the 'plished' is not being played. Checking how much that is in samples it would seem that Surge plays about 20,480 of the 43,250 total, which would make sense since 20,480 is a multiple of 2048.

Repeating this test with another WAV gives the exact same result. This time using a sample of the word 'Destroyed', same source and format as above. The length of the WAV in this case is 0.967256 seconds or 42,656 samples. Again Surge only plays up to about 'Destro' while the 'yed' is being omitted. Checking how much that is in samples it again seems to be 20,480 of the 42,656 total.

So i guess the upshot is this:

- WAVs must not be longer than 2.728 seconds or they wont load at all

- WAVs up to 2.728 seconds will load but only the first 20,480 samples will be played

- The 20,480 samples that are being played will be split into x amount of frames controllable via the 'Shape' slider*

(*In this case used to set the 'start-frame'.)

bbreakz · Post by **bbreakz** » Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:49 pm

esaruoho wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:02 am
bbreakz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:52 am I still get error messages after installing Surge on Mac / El Capitan.. says it's not installed properly
start by wiping both /Library/Application Support/Surge/* and /Users/you/Library/Application Support/Surge

while all music apps are closed
then go to /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/ and wipe Components/Surge.component and VST/Surge.vst and VST3/Surge.vst3 and then go to /Users/you/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins and wipe Components/Surge.component and VST/Surge.vst and VST3/Surge.vst3

then re-run the installer and see what happens after successful install.

good luck!

Thanks will try this!

bbreakz · Post by **bbreakz** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:29 am

esaruoho wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 8:02 am
bbreakz wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:52 am I still get error messages after installing Surge on Mac / El Capitan.. says it's not installed properly
start by wiping both /Library/Application Support/Surge/* and /Users/you/Library/Application Support/Surge

while all music apps are closed
then go to /Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/ and wipe Components/Surge.component and VST/Surge.vst and VST3/Surge.vst3 and then go to /Users/you/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins and wipe Components/Surge.component and VST/Surge.vst and VST3/Surge.vst3

then re-run the installer and see what happens after successful install.

good luck!

BIGGGGG Thank you!!! That worked

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:05 pm

ok guys, here is my 5th wavetable set in the series, XLZ_ORG
32 new wavetables to help you make some killer organ sounds with SURGE!
have fun with them and dont forget to modulate the shape
parameter with an envelope or LFO!
enjoy!

https://www.sendspace.com/file/d39o9e

on the horizon is set #6 VOC2 vocal set
stay tuned!

Vortifex · Post by **Vortifex** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:43 pm

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:48 pm

layzer wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 6:05 pm ok guys, here is my 5th wavetable set in the series, XLZ_ORG
32 new wavetables to help you make some killer organ sounds with SURGE!
have fun with them and dont forget to modulate the shape
parameter with an envelope or LFO!
enjoy!
https://www.sendspace.com/file/d39o9e

on the horizon is set #6 VOC2 vocal set
stay tuned!

Very generous of you Layzer. Can't wait for the vocal set.

Vortifex · Post by **Vortifex** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:31 pm

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:41 pm

Vortifex wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:31 pm Seems pretty buggy. It doesn't remember the zoom setting in FL Studio when you close/reopen the interface. And in FL and Studio One it crashes when opening some Access Virus wavetables I have that work fine in Icarus.

its going through some growing pains thats for sure...
at this point its "try it, if it works good in your daw, great...if not use icarius or something else"
i use version 1.5 with EXT2 with zero issues.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:43 pm

layzer wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:41 pm its going through some growing pains thats for sure...

Hear hear.

Vortifex · Post by **Vortifex** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:54 pm

layzer · Post by **layzer** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:10 pm

thats how it goes with open source...you got some nice people
putting work into it on their free time to make it work for everyone.
no small feat. but for those that it does play well, oh what fun.

esaruoho · Post by **esaruoho** » Sat Mar 23, 2019 10:10 pm

Vortifex wrote: ↑Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:31 pm Seems pretty buggy. It doesn't remember the zoom setting in FL Studio when you close/reopen the interface. And in FL and Studio One it crashes when opening some Access Virus wavetables I have that work fine in Icarus.

could you send me over the access virus wavetables to esaruoho@gmail.com so we can have a look

Vember Audio Surge is now open-source