Presonus Updates Studio One and New Presence XT Editor

[xphen0m]

Does this new update still only allow one midi channel per track?

I don't think it does. I don't think Presonus will ever do that, TBH, not sure why are they sticking to beyond basics in the MIDI editor... :/

So we can do multiple midi channels for a single track now? Before, it was a deal breaker because I use a lot of guitar libraries and use MIDI channels for string selection.

[EvilDragon]

Oh I misread you. I wanted to say "I think it still doesn't support that".

[RockinMillie]

Does this new update still only allow one midi channel per track?

I don't think it does. I don't think Presonus will ever do that, TBH, not sure why are they sticking to beyond basics in the MIDI editor... :/

So we can do multiple midi channels for a single track now? Before, it was a deal breaker because I use a lot of guitar libraries and use MIDI channels for string selection.

I think that possibly the multi-instrument feature in S1 V3 may do what you require:

https://ask.audio/articles/setting-up-m ... studio-one



Someone like Lawrence would probably be able to give you a more definitive answer than me.

[LawrenceF]

I think ED answered it already.

Studio One is built to run one sound or midi channel per track, it's always been that way and I haven't seen any indication of that changing so if you really need to run multiple midi channels on a single clip or track, it's not a good choice.

It's a design decision they made very early on and it just is what it is.

I agree with the guy, his decision about that. If he really needs that to work efficiently then he shouldn't buy it. It would not be smart to buy something that doesn't really do what you need, unless you just like collecting software.

Thankfully, there's a ton of other great choices available.

[goldenanalog]

You would think they would want to give the editor away for free to encourage content developers to jump on board.

Fascinating! You would definitely think....

I recently upped my S1v3 to 4 & got Notion - I've been debating about getting the editor upgrade to be able to build native sample-based instruments - what I've learned after looking at Presence XT over the past few days is this:

Presonus is *not* interested in encouraging 3rd party sample library makers to produce content for S1 - they want to sell you their own content exclusively - from their rather massive software/hardware ecosystem. That explains the addition cost of $80 (imho high) just to be able to edit the Presence XT sounds. Indeed: Presonus's add on content for Presence XT is pretty damn large - so their attitude seems to be: 'Need a sound? We got it right here! For an additional cost, of course!'

All completely understandable trying to look at it from the perspective of a Gorilla-sized company like Presonus: Studio One/Notion is actually priced pretty cheap at times; but might best be seen as gateway products into selling you quite a bit more Presonus...

[goldenanalog]

Therefore: I'm also going to guess that the Presence XT editor available to the end-user is not really full-featured, in the sense that it doesn't have more sophisticated tools - its hilarious to me that Sample One XT has time stretching but the Presence XT editor does not - maybe the editor overall is a basic, dumbed down version of what Presonus uses in-house to develope their sample packs - was Presence XT and editor updated going from V3->V4?

Maybe I'm missing something, here - I couldn't even find a Presonus manual and/or even a reference on the scripting side of Presence - you would *think* that the script database would be modified/expanded going from V3->V4 to accommodate the changes - and that owners of the editor would have access to a changelog with the update -

[goldenanalog]

Concluding: it really feels like Presonus made some compromises here, to: 1.) Encourage the end-user to buy Presence content from them excludively; and 2.) If you *are* so inclined: Make sampled instruments for your own use - not really for sale.

[Trancit]

And this was so important to reply on a 3 years old thread... ???

[goldenanalog]

And this was so important to reply on a 3 years old thread... ???

Lol not important at all - but here's the thing, Trancit:

There is *very* little info about the Presence XT editor overall that I've found - unless I've missed something. In fact: I dont think that there's a single youtube video that explores the scripting side of Presence XT even though it looked like that was to be addressed in a 'part 2' video -

What I'm hoping for is that some of those who participated in this thread are still around - and that they will be kind enough to correct/update me -

So: what do you know about the Presence XT editor, Trancit? Any info on it would be welcome!

[Trancit]

Lol not important at all - but here's the thing, Trancit:

...

Wow...
Sorry, I am no native speaker, but after reading your posting I didn´t felt you wanted more infos how the editor works...
To me it felt more like a bunch of assumptions, what the peeps at Presonus think, intend and aim at...

My apologize if I understood wrong...

[fedexnman]

I have the Presence XT editor add-on and have never used it probably won't ever , I think I got it on Sale for some low amount ? I feel Presonus really should just rolled the XT editor into the included S1V4 software and lose the add-on crap or Released Presence XT (editor) as a 3rd party VST and standalone .. I feel the same about Atom and ImpactXT combo why lock folks to S1artist/ImpactXT combo , you are not gonna compete with Push2 or Maschine that way . Presonus does some weird crap but I will say it's usually $150 used for S1V4 .... Presence editor add-on was back during V3 cycle too .

[goldenanalog]

Lol not important at all - but here's the thing, Trancit:

...

Wow...
Sorry, I am no native speaker, but after reading your posting I didn´t felt you wanted more infos how the editor works...
To me it felt more like a bunch of assumptions, what the peeps at Presonus think, intend and aim at...

My apologize if I understood wrong...

Well, I'm debating whether or not to buy the editor, Trancit.

I read through most of the thread first before posting - the thread seemed to devolve into focusing primarily on the overall cost of the editor - the fact that it wasn't included with Presence XT in the first place - and this all happened in V3! But after looking at the content for the sample player curently available in the shop, its easy to see why: Presonus has a lot to sell you - it makes sense to me now why they charged and still charge for the upgrade; and why its overall pretty limited; seemingly currently barely supported even though it has scripting (unless I got it wrong) -

Its enigmatic - especially with Sample One now taking the fore. You would think that they would upgrade all (3): Presence, impact, and Sample One - at least make the PXT editor now part of the S1V4 full package!

My hope is that theres info available on the editor that I'm not seeing, Trancit. If I'm going to invest in the editor, and I likely will: I want to utilize it to the fullest extent. But again: it currently certainly looks like there just isn't much (if any) support for it -

[goldenanalog]

I have the Presence XT editor add-on and have never used it probably won't ever , I think I got it on Sale for some low amount ? Can't believe everything ,add-ons and software is $25 a transfer over at Presonus ... . I feel Presonus really should just rolled the XT editor into the included S1V4 software and lose the add-on crap or Released Presence XT (editor) as a 3rd party VST and standalone .. I feel the same about Atom and ImpactXT combo why lock folks to S1artist/ImpactXT combo , you are not gonna compete with Push2 or Maschine that way . Presonus does some weird crap but I will say it's usually $150 used for S1V4 .... Presence editor add-on was back during V3 cycle too .

It's likely because they are a *huge* mouth to feed, fedexnman! Seriously: they are into everything audio!

Sorry to hear that you never used the editor, fedexnman- thats a strong statement. My thinking if it turns out to be too lame - as long as PXT will fairly well translate sample datum from Halion 6 - I'll just use that instead.

[fedexnman]

I'd be glad to sell/transfer you my presence XT editor add-on for $30 ... Basically I'll make $5 for the hassle . Lolz ..

[goldenanalog]

I'd be glad to sell/transfer you my presence XT editor add-on for $30 ... Basically I'll make $5 for the hassle . Lolz ..

Happy to take if off you hands, fedexnman - as long as you're 100% ok with doing that -

$30 is fine.