KVR Audio

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:37 am

i have too many comps, eqs etc. so i saw this on sale now and wonder how it is? i dont know much about AMPs, which are good and not

thx

lajosuti · Post by **lajosuti** » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:48 am

Nowadays this is among my favorite ones. Not many amps, but you can choose between different styles of clean, crunch, high gain. It has great impulses built-in, the gate/delay are also nice. It also has a high-pass/low-pass which can be set to off/pre/post, I find that a very useful feature. The graphical eq is also very useful. I like that there is a small variety of different tones, meaning - enough variety, but you don't have to browse 50+ amps to find something you like.

I prefer to use this compared to Thermionik/Mercuriall/S-gear/TH-U solutions; but I understand that this is rather a personal preference, because with all of these you can get great sound. For high-gain I like to use rockrack or Ignite Emissary, and for clean rockrack or Sknote Deluxe1 (this is soo amazing!).

One issue is that you cannot load external IRs into it. Luckily you can bypass the cab section so you can add NadIR or Wall of Sound or something after it. The included IRs sound great in a mix, but when I am just practicing, I prefer to use an Ownhammer IR. Not that much of an issue though, but hey, this is a common feature in most of the amp sims.

Also the UI is a bit small and not zoomable; I recently bought a 32" screen with 1920x1080 resolution, so now I can see it properly; but on a 24" the UI was tiny; if you have a modern 4K display, I suspect it will be very small.

You should demo it first, sale or not, to see if this is your cup of tea.

pekbro · Post by **pekbro** » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:59 am

I use it a lot due to it's efficiency, pretty lite as amp sims go, while at the same
time better than most (actually all imho) native DAW amps...

Burillo · Post by **Burillo** » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:17 am

it's hard to set it up precisely since the GUI is tiny and the knobs are imprecise, and the whole GUI feels like it's falling apart any moment. however, the sounds aren't bad. i prefer ReAxis for high gain, but rockrack is one of the better ones. try the demo.

jens · Post by **jens** » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:57 am

it certainly is far from being any bad - you can get a big variety of good useable sounds out of it and I think the GUI being a single-page design with relatively few controls adds to the usability.

However, having said that, I never use it though I own it. For bass-guitar my go-to is their Bassdude (which is great for guitar too) and for guitar one of my go-toS is their Chandler, which I think is one of the best amp-sims out there.

Burillo · Post by **Burillo** » Wed Mar 27, 2019 2:29 pm

Yup, Chandler is awesome!

RafaelMorgan · Post by **RafaelMorgan** » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:09 pm

Yep, nowadays their Chandler is the best amp sim in my toolbox. Impressively realistic and versatile. It covers everything from clean to heavy rock...It's got a great feel as well. Really pleasant to play with.

SoundPorn · Post by **SoundPorn** » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:13 pm

Crazy because I downloaded the free version which is just a couple presets and never used it until yesterday when I pitched down a guitar loop 2 octaves to make it a bass guitar and I was surprised first by how light it is on CPU i usually hate opening amps because they're so cpu heavy, and all the presets sounded really good, any additional tweaks I wanted I could do mostly with another eq right after

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:14 pm

thanks a lot guys, im still unsure to get it, i got also Guitar Rig, do you think guitar rig consumes this one?

RafaelMorgan · Post by **RafaelMorgan** » Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:33 pm

Caine123 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:14 pm thanks a lot guys, im still unsure to get it, i got also Guitar Rig, do you think guitar rig consumes this one?

It's a kind of apples and oranges thing...

Guitar rig has a lot of effects and stuff. It's good for mixing, I mean, if you're not a guitarist, it's perfectly good for tweaking other people's guitar tracks in a mix.

If you play the guitar, Rockrack is way more fun to play and feels really natural. The same goes for their Bassdude and Chandler, which are really outstanding to play with.

Burillo · Post by **Burillo** » Wed Mar 27, 2019 9:12 pm

for raw guitar tones, rockrack is miles ahead of Guitar Rig. GR is really outdated technology at this point. it's approaching 10 years without updates, which, in terms of amp sim technology, is eternity...

reggie1979 · Post by **reggie1979** » Wed Mar 27, 2019 10:04 pm

That's a true statement. Anyways, I have it but I'd rather sell it as I've other sims I simply like more. PA makes some good ones, I should pull out the stuff I have and see what some of those oldies are like (megasingle, the 646, the pedals, all remnants of the old voucher madness days)

reggie1979 · Post by **reggie1979** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 7:55 pm

They are giving it away for 29 bucks now.

mixtur.se · Post by **mixtur.se** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:49 pm

You can get good tones from this if you set the input gain right, but the sound is very "mono" and it sounds flat compared to almost any other ampsim out there.

Cooker · Post by **Cooker** » Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:12 pm

To me it certainly wins the cpu efficiency vs sound department. Has a nice feel and quick/easy to adjust if you're not very picky. 30 bucks is really good value.

But sound reminds me coming out of speakers rather than a real amp. Can be a good thing for the producers point of view but fake for a guitar player.

bx_rockrack V3 how is it?