What is Reason? New promo video from Propellerhead

[SLiC]

It CAN be weird & modular, e.g. last night I made a "track" that played for 20 minutes with NOTHING in the sequencer. I was just using LFOs and sequencer devices to generate notes, chords, harmonies, drums, etc. You can't do that in Cubase, or Logic, or Studio One.

I love this as well. For most of the songs I make for my experimental glitch project, the sequencer is completely empty. /Stefan (PH)

This is exactly the type of thing I would use Bitwig for....I wonder if Bitwig has taken any market share of Reason?

[Deep Purple]

The modular aspect and easy access to CV and gate signals is what appeals to me about Reason more than anything else

[Psuper]

It CAN be weird & modular, e.g. last night I made a "track" that played for 20 minutes with NOTHING in the sequencer. I was just using LFOs and sequencer devices to generate notes, chords, harmonies, drums, etc. You can't do that in Cubase, or Logic, or Studio One.

I love this as well. For most of the songs I make for my experimental glitch project, the sequencer is completely empty. /Stefan (PH)

This is exactly the type of thing I would use Bitwig for....I wonder if Bitwig has taken any market share of Reason?

Every DAW has.

Props sat on the 'devices' train too long, being content to be a simple rewired instrument. When they had the chance (for a long period of time btw) to take the DAW world by storm, they instead stuck with poor decisions and a striking lack of paying attention to their customers and their RE devs. With R10 being a PR nightmare, it seems they now want to turn things around, but I'm not convinced they know how, nor have the ability to do so. Far too many PR schemes and cutesy moves, with very little to show for DAW development.

As a consumer, great time to be alive its a buyers market -- when you have a list of 30 DAWs to 'hate', not a single one makes a significant difference in our lives.

[antic604]

It CAN be weird & modular, e.g. last night I made a "track" that played for 20 minutes with NOTHING in the sequencer. I was just using LFOs and sequencer devices to generate notes, chords, harmonies, drums, etc. You can't do that in Cubase, or Logic, or Studio One.

I love this as well. For most of the songs I make for my experimental glitch project, the sequencer is completely empty. /Stefan (PH)

This is exactly the type of thing I would use Bitwig for....I wonder if Bitwig has taken any market share of Reason?

It's not as easy to setup in Bitwig, although possible:
https://aavepyora.com/2019/03/28/bitwig ... ic-primer/

[rlared]

I dunno I think Reason is a great alternative to traditional DAWs. It's un-apologetic about focusing on the instruments and effects, tweaking, and experimenting. The rack plugins are all open, visible, and easy to tweak. They are designed to be easily to use and accessible. It's fun. And the mixer and sequencer are nice as well, but they are supporting tools rather than the major focus of the application.

Sure it doesn't have a lot of things that the traditional DAWs have, but I think that's something to embrace. Less distractions. I find that traditional DAWs, for all of their power, are not inspiring at all. The thought of going to sit down, opening the DAW, get things ready. . . sometimes it seems more like work than like play. It makes me feel tired.

[Anosou]

Props sat on the 'devices' train too long, being content to be a simple rewired instrument. When they had the chance (for a long period of time btw) to take the DAW world by storm, they instead stuck with poor decisions and a striking lack of paying attention to their customers and their RE devs. With R10 being a PR nightmare, it seems they now want to turn things around, but I'm not convinced they know how, nor have the ability to do so. Far too many PR schemes and cutesy moves, with very little to show for DAW development.

As a consumer, great time to be alive its a buyers market -- when you have a list of 30 DAWs to 'hate', not a single one makes a significant difference in our lives.

Reason 10's the best selling, most popular release we've ever made. It did come quite shortly after Reason 9.5 and we said we wouldn't release a full version upgrade in 2018 in response to that so people could feel safe getting 10 if they wanted. Wouldn't call that a PR nightmare.

Like rlared said above, we tend to simply do things a bit different and focus on parts of the DAW that are our strengths, that users want and that result in more music and fun. More options doesn't always lead to more music. But everyone's different so I get that might not appeal to everyone.

[AdvancedFollower]

It CAN be weird & modular, e.g. last night I made a "track" that played for 20 minutes with NOTHING in the sequencer. I was just using LFOs and sequencer devices to generate notes, chords, harmonies, drums, etc. You can't do that in Cubase, or Logic, or Studio One.

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It's a super flexible DAW for medium-sized projects (IMO), with a slightly outdated workflow that they're slowly turning around

Well, you can kind of do that in other DAWs, using plugins like Cherry Audio Voltage Modular, Softube Modular, ACE, Arturia's Modular V etc. But Reason has a lot of cool devices, and is very flexible in how you can patch them together.

That's why it would be great if you could load up just the Reason rack as a big multi-out VST and use in any DAW. I'd love to experiment with this modular stuff, without the baggage of a (slightly) outdated workflow. I already have Studio One, which has a great, modern and flexible workflow on the sequencer/mixer side. I don't want to have to sacrifice that just so I can play with virtual patch cables. I know there's ReWire, but it's clumsy and outdated.

[neverenoughfunk]

just curious... could the individuals that are not so fond of Reason PLEASE post some of their music... therefore, WE can get a better understanding of your views...

thanks in advance...

[Psuper]

Props sat on the 'devices' train too long, being content to be a simple rewired instrument. When they had the chance (for a long period of time btw) to take the DAW world by storm, they instead stuck with poor decisions and a striking lack of paying attention to their customers and their RE devs. With R10 being a PR nightmare, it seems they now want to turn things around, but I'm not convinced they know how, nor have the ability to do so. Far too many PR schemes and cutesy moves, with very little to show for DAW development.

As a consumer, great time to be alive its a buyers market -- when you have a list of 30 DAWs to 'hate', not a single one makes a significant difference in our lives.

Reason 10's the best selling, most popular release we've ever made. It did come quite shortly after Reason 9.5 and we said we wouldn't release a full version upgrade in 2018 in response to that so people could feel safe getting 10 if they wanted. Wouldn't call that a PR nightmare.

Like rlared said above, we tend to simply do things a bit different and focus on parts of the DAW that are our strengths, that users want and that result in more music and fun. More options doesn't always lead to more music. But everyone's different so I get that might not appeal to everyone.

PR is PR, and R10, like prior versions, cater to new buyers who get a host of instruments for $300 bucks - always has been the way Propellerhead does things. But to long-term customers, R10 was a PR insult being touted as "Biggest Upgrade Ever" and sticking 2 synths REs and 3rd party crippled demos in there.

You guys did a lot of stuff right, at the right time in the past, despite many poor decisions. Because, as we all know, Reason is just pure fun to play with and frankly we all were fannies of Reason - it was hard not to be, a sort of industry secret no one wanted to admit while they were pretending to be Pro-Tools masters using $20k worth of Waves effects...

The height of those great decisions being your RE Developer program, which could today be the shining example of an unstoppable proprietary software gargantuan, however is now a shadow of what it could be due to the lack of a shifting focus of your users and a lack of maturing the DAW itself.

If it matters, I'm hopeful. But I'm not blind.

[rewrite history]

Props sat on the 'devices' train too long, being content to be a simple rewired instrument. When they had the chance (for a long period of time btw) to take the DAW world by storm, they instead stuck with poor decisions and a striking lack of paying attention to their customers and their RE devs. With R10 being a PR nightmare, it seems they now want to turn things around, but I'm not convinced they know how, nor have the ability to do so. Far too many PR schemes and cutesy moves, with very little to show for DAW development.

As a consumer, great time to be alive its a buyers market -- when you have a list of 30 DAWs to 'hate', not a single one makes a significant difference in our lives.

Reason 10's the best selling, most popular release we've ever made. It did come quite shortly after Reason 9.5 and we said we wouldn't release a full version upgrade in 2018 in response to that so people could feel safe getting 10 if they wanted. Wouldn't call that a PR nightmare.

Like rlared said above, we tend to simply do things a bit different and focus on parts of the DAW that are our strengths, that users want and that result in more music and fun. More options doesn't always lead to more music. But everyone's different so I get that might not appeal to everyone.

But, the half-ass attempt of the VST implementation was nothing short of a nightmare, after all the money was collected first.

[rewrite history]

The video appears to be an attempt to win over new customers, because the old ones might not be around.

[lotus2035]

What is Reason?
It's the DAW with the exact same tiny GUI it had back in 2001.

[rlared]

Everyone's a critic man

[antic604]

What is Reason?
It's the DAW with the exact same tiny GUI it had back in 2001.

To be completely fair, I'd say Reason's GUI changed more since v1 than Ableton's, for example.

Where the latter has the upper hand is GPU-acceleration and high-DPI support

[antic604]

just curious... could the individuals that are not so fond of Reason PLEASE post some of their music... therefore, WE can get a better understanding of your views...

How is someone's opinion on a DAW reflected in quality of their music?