What DAW Do You Hate?

[THE INTRANCER]

I understand why Avid Protools has so much hate, but why does Image-Line FL Studio?

Probably because of the hybrid of an old and new GUI which is presented in an ugly kiddy way, and has a confusing / frustrating way of working. There may be others...

[jancivil]

I hated that representative coming in here with such bullshit not getting why people want time signatures like at all, the stupid argumentation he would bring, and I hate the whole concept they foisted on the world not knowing wtf a time signature even is until they finally got the hint (it so misled people and validated believing nonsense). And fruity was just not made from really a musician's perspective. But people like it, it serves its function, it has its market, it keeps them off the street, so I can learn to be phlegmatic about such things.

[JunSev]

Many of you people can desaggre or not to like FL studio, but hate it...

They are adding a lot of features for free, life time free updates, is a capable DAW able to do and achieve projects in a easy way (due to the amount of features maybe you have to learn something here and there, but what do you expect? capabilities and flexibility comes with learning curve).

And It really doesn't look like a daw for kids, please stop this anti FL propaganda, I don't know if some people think that if they pay for upgrades that makes then more adults...

Is not a frustrating daw or complicated, you just have to learn your tools like come on, put just a little bit of effort...

[JunSev]

I voted "Hate is a negative emotion I don't give into" by the way.

[Axis1~SL61]

Why is Reaper so much hated (12%!)?... I was thinking of giving it try (tired of forking out an annual "rent" for Cubase). I've installed soundLab Sonar, but after decades of cubase, I find it rather confusing... don't "hate" it, though -- why hate something that you can use free?... I tried Traktion -- it took me an hour to find out how to insert a simple VST synth in a track and make it work! I found the whole user interface very ugly and confusing -- it made me give up and go back to cubase to quickly make some music... someone told me that Studio One had a somewhat similar workflow to cubase -- I tried it, and didn't find any useful similarities...
Now, of course it takes time to learn any new DAW from scratch -- so, in the end, the
Real Question is: which one will better reward that learning effort and yet cost substantially less than cubase and it's constantly paid upgrades?... I would be very thankful for any suggestions, thanks in advance...
P.S.: I voted "I don't hate any, etc, etc"

[tooneba]

while many ppl are commenting about 7% hated daw FL it's interesting that ableton also have been voted by 6%.

[FapFilter]

Why is Reaper so much hated (12%!)?...

probably mostly because of the combination of two reasons:
1) it is extremely popular / gets recommended a lot, so many have at least tried it (it was iirc by far the most recommendable DAW in a poll on Gearslutz not that long ago)
2) workflow and/or terminology differ from many other DAWs in some ways.
It really depends on you. It can be heaven, especially when you have cusomized it to your likings, or it could be hell if you don't like to do so and simply don't click with it's default workflow

I personally simply have customized key commands when i recently switched from an old version of Sonar, as scripting seems to cumbersome to me / have no idea how to use those. Never even bothered to do so though as i'm already really liking it the way it is at the moment.

Just try it out for a while and see for yourself whether you belong to the h@t0rZ or evangelists camp. It doesn't hurt, the download is just approx. 11MB and doesn't bloat your system with bs.

[chk071]

it is extremely popular

Arguable. From experience i can tell that software like that, which gets a lot of recommendations online, and a lot of praise from people who like to adjust and modify the hell out of their software is in fact not very popular. Look at Linux. Judging by the internet, you'd think it has a market share of 90%, while, actually, it's rather close to 2 %. The internet is no measuring stick at all. In fact, the opposite is the case. The internet is rather crowded by oddballs with minority opinions. No offense meant, after all i'm here as well.

[FapFilter]

well, both extremes- the popularity poll on Gearslutz and the DAW hate poll here are also just based on some internet opinions.
And Reaper happens to get praised like mad on the web, whereas some other stuff might be labeled off as „unprofessional toys“ or aren't viewed as the most viable options anymore by the majority even before trying, so the expectations aren't as high.
Of course Reaper's default workflow might be divicive, but all the hate for it could only emerge because it got praised this much and thus way more people tried it than some DAW almost nobody is talking about anymore in such high regards.

[Michael L]

The internet is rather crowded by oddballs

Why is that?

[chk071]

My theory: Because it's the only place where they can live out their oddball mentalities, and even join other oddballs.

But, seriously, i haven't ever met someone in the outside world who uses Reaper, while i met loads of people who use Cubase or Logic. And, i also know that most people, be it in computing or in audio software, are just users, no administrators, or people who love to adjust and modify their software in every detail to make it fit their workflow. They rather choose the software which is most compatible with their workflow.

[Psuper]

Stating something is hated might be the best reason to try it. Or don't.

If it were in the recent past, you'd need to be 'pro-tools' proficient or you woulnd't be getting any professional work in most audio fields. Try bringing your Logic score or reason rns file or a bunch of wavs - wouldn't matter if you liked Pro Tools or not, you'd embarrass yourself. It was an industry standard, and may even still be I've been out of that game awhile now. If you're independent, you can prefer parchment scores and a live orchestra, or your penny whistle - doesn't matter what other people do -- you make your dime the way you want.

Look at DAW forums and activity if you want to know what the user base is these days. Take an hour to scour a few of the forums for the DAW you're interested in, and you'll see almost instantaneously why Reaper is so popular (and hated by haters). Its cheap, bloat free, and customizable, and the forums are far more mature, and busy, than anything else around here. Not necessarily newbie unfriendly, but doesn't hold your hand, which is exactly the reasons I use it. But I use lots of things...

[LawrenceF]

hate [hāt] verb
feel intense or passionate dislike for (something or someone).

The obvious questions are …

1. Why would anyone be using any DAW that they don't like and...
2. If they're not using it because they don't like using it, why even think or talk about it so often?

#2 is a rhetorical question.

Anyway, re: Reaper... people don't actually "hate" it. It more seems a lot of people hate the idea of it, that something so powerful could be so affordable. They more just hate some Reaper users always bragging about it.

[Hink]

I think people get frustrated when people derail other threads by flooding threads with reaper, I think there should be an expected backlash from that. If that were to happen with every daw no longer would serious discussions about specific daws be possible. You may find it funny, I think it disrespectful at the very least.

[Spencer Maddox]

I understand why Avid Protools has so much hate, but why does Image-Line FL Studio?

Probably because of the hybrid of an old and new GUI which is presented in an ugly kiddy way, and has a confusing / frustrating way of working. There may be others...

Both of those things are subjective honestly.
The workflow is actually famous for being good once you get the hang of it, it’s just not easy to get it into if you are accustomed to working with literally Any other DAW