Also posted this over at Ableton - sorry for any duplication.
About to return the following Mini to Apple on the 14th day (Tuesday.) Read all about the T2/USB2 glitch after the purchase, but "luckily" Apple released 10.14.4 last week, which I installed, not because of the T2 issue (I hadn't gotten that far) - please read on. FYI, my USB interface is the MOTU Ultralite Mk4 - also, Live 10.0.6 has the same issue with MacOS 10.14.3 described below.
The Mini: 2018, 6-core32GB/512GB, 3.2Ghz 6xCore i7
The App: Ableton Live 10.0.6 Suite, fresh install (twice, after a manual uninstall/cleanup suggested by Ableton.)
The intention was to run this Mini live on stage (to upgrade from a MBP 2015). The plan was to use the MBP (I own a couple) as a Screen Share client, to avoid the "clumsy" of portable LCD/keyboard/trackpad on stage - GB Ethernet back-to-back - the simplest "network" on the planet.
The issue - WITHOUT a "Dummy Plug" (HDMI Emulator) Live 10.0.6 will NOT display ANY content - only the top menu and BLANK window(s) appear - 100% unusable. WITH a Dummy Plug, Live 10 will run and appear normal, but in short order (minutes) bogs down not just itself, but the whole Mini. I've tried two different HDMI Emulators, and a number of different resolutions - so, also 100% unusable.
NOT off to a promising start.
All other applications (e.g., the pre-installed apps, including Garage Band), and MAX 8 (the only other app I've installed/licensed on this Mini) have NO display or performance issue running WITHOUT or WITH the Dummy Plug - only Live 10.
I think this is pretty clearly a Live 10 problem, however it was during an Ableton Team Viewer session late last week that the "fix" was to "connect a monitor" with no acknowledgement of the population of "stage" users who would need Screen Sharing to work. Ableton did not even mention the Dummy Plug; I had to research that on my own.
Posting this in the hopes that someone is ahead of me in this learning curve and will provide a usable suggestion for Live 10/Mac Mini on stage setup, or a fix for this issue.
I plan to call both Ableton and Apple tomorrow - I will not keep a $2K+ Mini and the Live 10 upgrade, while waiting around "in case" one/both of the Firms decide to acknowledge and fix this problem.
MANY THANKS to anyone to may have some ideas or even questions.
Live 10.0.6 Mac Mini 2018 10.14.4 Screen Sharing = Freezes MacOS
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Live 10.0.6 Mac Mini 2018 10.14.4 Screen Sharing = Freezes MacOS
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Also posted this over at Ableton - sorry for any duplication.
About to return the following Mini to Apple on the 14th day (Tuesday.) Read all about the T2/USB2 glitch after the purchase, but "luckily" Apple released 10.14.4 last week, which I installed, not because of the T2 issue (I hadn't gotten that far) - please read on. FYI, my USB interface is the MOTU Ultralite Mk4 - also, Live 10.0.6 has the same issue with MacOS 10.14.3 described below.
The Mini: 2018, 6-core32GB/512GB, 3.2Ghz 6xCore i7
The App: Ableton Live 10.0.6 Suite, fresh install (twice, after a manual uninstall/cleanup suggested by Ableton.)
The intention was to run this Mini live on stage (to upgrade from a MBP 2015). The plan was to use the MBP (I own a couple) as a Screen Share client, to avoid the "clumsy" of portable LCD/keyboard/trackpad on stage - GB Ethernet back-to-back - the simplest "network" on the planet.
The issue - WITHOUT a "Dummy Plug" (HDMI Emulator) Live 10.0.6 will NOT display ANY content - only the top menu and BLANK window(s) appear - 100% unusable. WITH a Dummy Plug, Live 10 will run and appear normal, but in short order (minutes) bogs down not just itself, but the whole Mini. I've tried two different HDMI Emulators, and a number of different resolutions - so, also 100% unusable.
NOT off to a promising start.
All other applications (e.g., the pre-installed apps, including Garage Band), and MAX 8 (the only other app I've installed/licensed on this Mini) have NO display or performance issue running WITHOUT or WITH the Dummy Plug - only Live 10.
I think this is pretty clearly a Live 10 problem, however it was during an Ableton Team Viewer session late last week that the "fix" was to "connect a monitor" with no acknowledgement of the population of "stage" users who would need Screen Sharing to work. Ableton did not even mention the Dummy Plug; I had to research that on my own.
Posting this in the hopes that someone is ahead of me in this learning curve and will provide a usable suggestion for Live 10/Mac Mini on stage setup, or a fix for this issue.
I plan to call both Ableton and Apple tomorrow - I will not keep a $2K+ Mini and the Live 10 upgrade, while waiting around "in case" one/both of the Firms decide to acknowledge and fix this problem.
MANY THANKS to anyone to may have some ideas or even questions.
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Post by Deep Purple »
I don't know if you've thought about this, but what about replacing the Mac mini with a MacBook? My 2018 MacBook has run into zero issues with the T2 chip (on Mojave), and I run Ableton Live without any issues at all.
Granted, I'm not screen sharing, but if the solution is to "connect a monitor", maybe having an integrated one will remove the issue? Might be something to run past Ableton and Apple (or scan forums for an answer first).
Granted, I'm not screen sharing, but if the solution is to "connect a monitor", maybe having an integrated one will remove the issue? Might be something to run past Ableton and Apple (or scan forums for an answer first).
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