KVR Audio

hugolp · Post by **hugolp** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:31 pm

I am sure this topic has been discused before but I cant find it? Is it there a search engine in this forum?

I am tired of Cubase and thinking on moving to Sonar 4. I looks very good. And i was wondering:

Whats so great about Tracktion? Whats the feature of the program that makes people think is fastest to arrange and easier?

Thanks

Hugo

multree · Post by **multree** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:33 pm

well I think the best way to show you is... download a demo (there's no beeping anymore) and play with it.... you'll fall in love within nanominutes

hugolp · Post by **hugolp** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:35 pm

multree wrote:well I think the best way to show you is... download a demo (there's no beeping anymore) and play with it.... you'll fall in love within nanominutes

Thanks for the suggestion, but I am going to use my time learning Sonar. But before I make that decision I wanted to know whats with Tracktion, to be sure I want to go for Sonar.

Hugo

chagzuki · Post by **chagzuki** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:49 pm

TheWall · Post by **TheWall** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:52 pm

What a lovely guy.

bluedad · Post by **bluedad** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:54 pm

multree wrote:... download a demo (there's no beeping anymore) and play with it.... you'll fall in love within nanominutes

no beeping eh? what's the limitation?

nuisance sonore · Post by **nuisance sonore** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:00 pm

The first thing that poped when I opened the program for the first time is how easy it is to route the input to a track, how flexible it is (you need a midi track? just put a midi input and it's a midi track. Audio track? connect an audio source and it an audio track).
Then, there's the departure from the classical hardware look which I always felt looked clunky on a computer screen, the program take the most advantages from vector graphic to make a very efficient interface.
Then there's the stability, I have yet to have a crash with it.
Continuing on the interface, the whole program is set up to be context sensitive, again from using vector graphic instead of clunky hardware emulation, so when you click on something to work on, all the options pertaining to that appears immediately so you don't have to wade trough a lot of floating window or hidden menu command; in one word "workflow". It's one of the most efficient interface I have ever seen, all software categories confounded.
Add to that a few well placed keyboard shortcut, a good audio engine, well thought out project management, and you're litterally flying trough your edits. I'll let you discover the rest, as I did, by trying the demo.

Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:09 pm

Ezy Ryder wrote:in one word "worflow"

Wow - where can I find me some of that stuff?!

Sorry - I couldn't resist.

Caleb

nuisance sonore · Post by **nuisance sonore** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:16 pm

I whish there was a spell checker on this thing

VariKusBrainZ · Post by **VariKusBrainZ** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:23 pm

you failed to mention that midi editing is SHIT. But for audio its wicked, gotta love those racks

haydxn · Post by **haydxn** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 1:48 pm

i disagree that midi editing is SHIT. midi editing is functional, but has some annoying flaws... such as you cannot lock the pitch of a note as you drag it (i.e. horizontal only).

i really don't get why people use such strong words to put down an entirely useable operational area of the program. i use mostly audio, but i do a heck of a lot of midi work (even using sysex commands) and i'm very pleased with the way Tracktion works, and can live with slight quirks when the positives outweigh any niggles i may have.

koorby · Post by **koorby** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:12 am

At the risk of being flamed, called names and accused of being a Tracktion fanboi; let me say that I have used Logic, Cubase and Sonar, and even purchased Sonar 3PE. I sold Sonar the day after I downloaded the Tracktion demo and got on with making music. I do a lot of MIDI editing and don't find any real limitation other than the need for a horizontal lock when moving note pitch data.

Here are my main pros for Tracktion:

1. One single screen - zero layered windows and menus
2. Fast ASIO host, stable as a rock, lean on CPU. Has never crashed once on me
3. It's so simple to route audio and MIDI using a single track metaphor, and FX and mixing is so transparent it's beyond intuitive.
4. Have not needed a manual or readme file once.
5. The GUI is a masterwork of design, simplicity and uses scalable fonts to make it appear consistent across any machine or resolution
6. Racks are pure genius

The only thing I'd like to see added is a "Save to MP3" feature.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:22 am

Everyone jumps on the "MIDI is shit" thing... but I can't figure out why. It's... a grid... and you click and draw your notes on it, like any other piano roll I've ever seen.

I don't doubt that it's missing features that other sequencers have, but it does everything that I personally could possibly imagine needing a MIDI editor for. It doesn't send MTC, which is a downer for certain types of users, but not for me as I don't use any external MIDI-based hardware.

Even if you can say that the MIDI editor lacks features compared to other sequencers, it's quite a stretch to take it to the extreme and say it's "SHIT". I swear, some people just *hear* other people saying that it sucks, and then take it as gospel truth. I know of at least one user who operates almost exclusively in the MIDI domain, using Tracktion.

As for the rest... Koorby said it all.

Greg

AndrewSimon · Post by **AndrewSimon** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 4:34 am

hugolp wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion, but I am going to use my time learning Sonar. But before I make that decision I wanted to know whats with Tracktion, to be sure I want to go for Sonar.

Well my friend this is exactly the point.
You need time to learn Sonar.
With Tracktion you can be up a running full steam in about an hour.

webstersisme · Post by **webstersisme** » Tue Oct 05, 2004 5:10 am

not to seem like an idiot, but how do you assign vsti's?