Any accurate pitch/frequency detection plugins? not pitch tuning

[k-tronix]

$29 for Snail is a bargain. It's highly recommended. I plan to use this instead of lugging around a strobe tuner for piano tuning work.

[mtelesha]

I bought Spiral after reading this thread and finding out that Snail was more or less a rip off of Spiral's idea.

[martinjuenke]

I bought Snail after reading this thread and finding out that it works really fine for me and closes a gap in my plugin arsenal.

[spigmu]

Snail is terrific. Another is the free/pay SIR Spectrum Analyser that displays note/cents and Hz for peaks: https://www.siraudiotools.com/Spectrum-Analyzer.php

Alas, Snail doesn't function as I need. In order to see the info you need to also hover the mouse over the area, as opposed to it getting the audio and giving the info, like a tuner. It won't do it without bringing the cursor over to the note. Problem with most tuner plugins is that they don't have an option to leave the last detected frequency up until the next one is input. Mtuner has a weird way of leaving the note up (good) but throwing the cents detected way up or down after the note has passed (not so good), so you can only use the info you get while the note is playing, not what's left up, so not so good for short notes. And if it throws the cents off at the silence enough it will change the note But I've been getting by with Mtuner for now and keeping in mind that it's only accurate during the note, that the freq left up after isn't accurate. Here's a gif of it with two simple sine waves, detecting fine and then jumping wildly in the silence that follows.

[Michael L]

^^^Did you try all the different modes in Snail?
SIR Spectrum Analyzer -- with the peak detection setting-- lets you set the delay so the peak 'flag' stays up; you can also pause it.
In your sine example, perhaps the Attack and Release are not instantaneous

[SoundPorn]

Yeah sometimes I gotta halftime the audio to get an accurate read but such is life.

Snail is terrific. Another is the free/pay SIR Spectrum Analyser that displays note/cents and Hz for peaks: https://www.siraudiotools.com/Spectrum-Analyzer.php

Alas, Snail doesn't function as I need. In order to see the info you need to also hover the mouse over the area, as opposed to it getting the audio and giving the info, like a tuner. It won't do it without bringing the cursor over to the note. Problem with most tuner plugins is that they don't have an option to leave the last detected frequency up until the next one is input. Mtuner has a weird way of leaving the note up (good) but throwing the cents detected way up or down after the note has passed (not so good), so you can only use the info you get while the note is playing, not what's left up, so not so good for short notes. And if it throws the cents off at the silence enough it will change the note But I've been getting by with Mtuner for now and keeping in mind that it's only accurate during the note, that the freq left up after isn't accurate. Here's a gif of it with two simple sine waves, detecting fine and then jumping wildly in the silence that follows.

[Ah_Dziz]

Trying to find a plugin that will enable me to exactly determine the frequency of a selection. Do not want to autotune it, just find out quickly the amount of cents something is away. I'm finding that the detected info when doing this with autotuning plugins I've tried the with, just for the info, not tuning it, don't freeze upon the determined pitch and leave it up long enough to read it. It's been suggested to use the Voxengo Spectrum Analyzer, but unless there's something I'm missing (never unlikely : ) ) that's for eq freq spectrum, not pitch freq.

There are a few things I've tried that get close. There's a JS plugin (for Reaper, what I'm using, OS X) that has the right approach but is inaccurate. Oddly, there are a few Nyquist plugin scripts that work in Audacity very well, but exporting a file into Audacity every time is a deal breaker. Any VST or AU for OS X that are accurate and have a good display of the result?

Thanks : )

There is no difference between the frequencies that you manipulate with an EQ and the fundamental frequency of a note. They both follow the same scale. The fundamental note itself will show itself as a large peak in any nice analyzer. Many will track these peaks also and read them out as notes along with adjustable hold times, and other options. It’s about the most flexible way to go.
Most tuners, on the other hand, only attempt to track a single monophonic note and can give overly wiggly output data even then. With a proper analyzer you can see the fundamentals along with their overtones and how they interact.
All that being said, the most accurate monophonic pitch tracker, that reads out pitch in real-time, is waves tune real-time. It is very accurate and you don’t need to engage the pitch correction at all.

[spigmu]

^^^Did you try all the different modes in Snail?
SIR Spectrum Analyzer -- with the peak detection setting-- lets you set the delay so the peak 'flag' stays up; you can also pause it.
In your sine example, perhaps the Attack and Release are not instantaneous

Thanks Michael. I had several emails with Snail's developer, who was terrifically responsive, and he concluded that what I wanted to do, to get a reading without touching the mouse, wasn't possible with Snail.

I did vary the parameters in Melda, used in the gif, and still didn't get satisfactory results as far as what stayed up after the note passed.

Thanks for the recommendation of SIR SA's capability : ) I'll check it out

[spigmu]

There is no difference between the frequencies that you manipulate with an EQ and the fundamental frequency of a note. They both follow the same scale. The fundamental note itself will show itself as a large peak in any nice analyzer. Many will track these peaks also and read them out as notes along with adjustable hold times, and other options. It’s about the most flexible way to go.
Most tuners, on the other hand, only attempt to track a single monophonic note and can give overly wiggly output data even then. With a proper analyzer you can see the fundamentals along with their overtones and how they interact.
All that being said, the most accurate monophonic pitch tracker, that reads out pitch in real-time, is waves tune real-time. It is very accurate and you don’t need to engage the pitch correction at all.

Thanks, Ah_Dziz. I'm aware of using a frequency analyzer for the information, rather than a tuner, but (in my limited going through a few) hadn't found one that enabled me to easily see the freq at the exact location needed easily enough and keeping the workflow (as in just glancing at it and then back at the DAW). But I know that just because the ones I tried didn't function in a complementary way to what I wanted to achieve it doesn't mean none will : ) so I'm hopeful I'll be happy enough with one's way of doing it. Thanks for the recommendation of the Waves Tune RT for this. I had checked out the LT version but was turned off by the lack of tolerance, range and even, IIRC, in their absence, attack control, which are parameters I do want from a commercial plugin since there are free ones that do good enough 100% nuclear autotuning. I'll look into the RT one for the readout of frequency.

[an-electric-heart]

I use the one by Hornet;

https://www.hornetplugins.com/plugins/h ... ngkey-mk2/

[Ah_Dziz]

There is no difference between the frequencies that you manipulate with an EQ and the fundamental frequency of a note. They both follow the same scale. The fundamental note itself will show itself as a large peak in any nice analyzer. Many will track these peaks also and read them out as notes along with adjustable hold times, and other options. It’s about the most flexible way to go.
Most tuners, on the other hand, only attempt to track a single monophonic note and can give overly wiggly output data even then. With a proper analyzer you can see the fundamentals along with their overtones and how they interact.
All that being said, the most accurate monophonic pitch tracker, that reads out pitch in real-time, is waves tune real-time. It is very accurate and you don’t need to engage the pitch correction at all.

Thanks, Ah_Dziz. I'm aware of using a frequency analyzer for the information, rather than a tuner, but (in my limited going through a few) hadn't found one that enabled me to easily see the freq at the exact location needed easily enough and keeping the workflow (as in just glancing at it and then back at the DAW). But I know that just because the ones I tried didn't function in a complementary way to what I wanted to achieve it doesn't mean none will : ) so I'm hopeful I'll be happy enough with one's way of doing it. Thanks for the recommendation of the Waves Tune RT for this. I had checked out the LT version but was turned off by the lack of tolerance, range and even, IIRC, in their absence, attack control, which are parameters I do want from a commercial plugin since there are free ones that do good enough 100% nuclear autotuning. I'll look into the RT one for the readout of frequency.

Another trick with many tuner plugins and analysers is that they allow you to set a level threshold, below which they don’t bother to analyse/ process, this is a reason why you will see the pitch drift at the end of the note since the interplay between the counting of cycles and the threshold being crossed will make the thing think it’s seeing a different frequency since many waveforms are asymmetrical in the positive and negative parts of the wave. This behavior is adjustable in the Melda stuff for sure, but I’m not sure how many others.

[Shakira1977]

Hi everyone
Can someone tell me how can I find out THE PITCH OF A MUSIC FILE?
By "pitch of a music file" I mean is it at A4: 440 Hz pitch or A4: 432 Hz or 444Hz or 436 Hz or...
I tried all music editor softwares (Audacity, Adobe Audition, NTC and...) and plug ins (Melda production Mtuner and whatever you can think of...) but none of them gave me a correct answer. Mtuner just shows music notes like: (C, C#, F, G# and...) and shows for example "+17 cent" or "-49 cent" and...
music editores let you PITCH SHIFT a song (for example -0.35 semitones or +0.35 semitones or...)
But these are not what I'm looking for!
I just want a software (or plug in or A SOLUTION) to find out THE PITCH OF A SONG. Is it pitched at 440 Hz or 432 Hz
or 444 Hz or 436 Hz or... but accurate not estimated!
Thank you SO MUCH!!!