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imau wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:08 am With Gigabit Ethernet connections, can I use samples without latency, even if several computers are reading the same files ?
If you use 10gbe on the sever, a suitable 10gbe switch and gbe out to the clinet - well it's possible (as bandwidth per client should end up the same as a normal single master/single slave VEpro over gbe setup).

Issue will be having enough cpu on the server to keep up with all the clients (so probably at least a decent xeon cpu) and also enough bandwidth to storage on the server for that not to be a bottleneck (bus attached flash storage most likely - forget even RAIDed hdds)

short answer - aside from to software issues, having suitable hardware will probably cost so much that you're nowhere near the break even point with 10 clients (makes more sense when you're talking petabyte size storage and 100s of clients) - it'd actually be cheaper to just increase the storage on the clients and store the samples locally (2tb isn't that big in modern terms - 2tb hdds are dirt cheap and attached locally will still outrun even 10gbe for thruput).

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Even if the "Sample Server" was running a i9-9980xe, 128GB RAM, and a dozen SSDs (including M.2 Ultra)... that still wouldn't be nearly enough performance when split 10 simultaneous ways.

Piano sample library:
What happens when a couple of those players start using the sustain pedal?
Polyphony starts piling up fast.
What happens if they're using multiple libraries that each have multiple mic positions?
Many of the better libraries are also using convolution for ambience.
You can chew thru polyphony/resources quick if you're doing orchestral mock-ups.

The composer clients we work with need everything they can get in a single high-end machine.
I'm working on an i9-9980xe machine for a composer as we speak (128GB RAM, two M.2 Ultra SSDs, and two SATA SSDs).
There's no way this client would be functional at 1/10 the capabilities.
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Jim Roseberry wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:45 pm The composer clients we work with need everything they can get in a single high-end machine.
I'm working on an i9-9980xe machine for a composer as we speak (128GB RAM, two M.2 Ultra SSDs, and two SATA SSDs).
If you dont mind me asking, what kind of work is this for? Film post production? Just trying to get my heard around why you would need this much power.
There's no way this client would be functional at 1/10 the capabilities.
btw.. the above is correct. I am an IT guy. you are better off with one single really powerful system maxed to the kazoo.
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I was curious because that is an interesting question, but it turns out you guys are answering a 2 year old post.
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telecode wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:00 pm
Jim Roseberry wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 9:45 pm The composer clients we work with need everything they can get in a single high-end machine.
I'm working on an i9-9980xe machine for a composer as we speak (128GB RAM, two M.2 Ultra SSDs, and two SATA SSDs).
If you dont mind me asking, what kind of work is this for? Film post production? Just trying to get my heard around why you would need this much power.
There's no way this client would be functional at 1/10 the capabilities.
btw.. the above is correct. I am an IT guy. you are better off with one single really powerful system maxed to the kazoo.
Lots of contemporary composers are working for TV/Film/Video-Games... where the budget is too small for a real/large orchestra.
The demand is still there for thematic/theatrical "big" sounding productions... it just has to be done within tight budget constraints.
This has opened new career opportunities for tech-savvy composers.
With top-tier current generation machines, you can pull several thousand simultaneous notes of disk-streaming polyphony
With CPU and drive speed getting so fast, things like multi mic-position sample libraries are now a practical reality. This takes performance demand to a whole different level.
If there's 8 mics being used, that means every note played is triggering 8 channels of audio. Polyphony piles up quickly.
Jim Roseberry
Purrrfect Audio
www.studiocat.com
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mgw38 wrote: Mon Apr 08, 2019 10:06 pm I was curious because that is an interesting question, but it turns out you guys are answering a 2 year old post.
Didn't realize that. :hihi:
The scenario would have been even more impractical two years ago...
Jim Roseberry
Purrrfect Audio
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jim@studiocat.com

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We'll never know, the OP has left..

The scenario sounded most like a meetup, workshop, or class. 10 students trying it out for a limited time, but all at the same time.
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