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Skupje wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:18 am
fmr wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:32 am Don't know that one, and a quick search with Google didn't show anything :shrug:

"But 48kHz is alright too"... Allright for what?
For playing the samples. :tu: "Im purist"
It depends on the samples, the sampler, and what you want to achieve. It may be allright, it may be too much, and it may be not enough.

That's not on topic, anyway. What you seem failing to understand is that old samplers didn't support so high sample rates, and many had "exotic" sample rates. For example, I owned what was the first 16-bit sampler, the Casio FZ-10M (rack version of the FZ-1). Although it used 16-bit samples (up to then samplers used 12-bit, and the first ones even used 8-bit) it used sample rates of 9 kHz, 18 kHz and 36 kHz. And if you choose always 36 kHz, you would end with just a few samples, because RAM was prohibitively expensive back then, and samplers only allowed a very limited amount of RAM, nevertheless.

So, when we are converting samples from those old machines, we have to take into account what sample rates they used, and use a tool that can read and convert from those sample rates. Otherwise, we will be destroying the samples before we can make something useful with them.
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i love the built-in assumption that an arcane and ass-backwards workflow should need no explanation because it is presumed that's what everyone else uses. "Quartus"? "usual left shift add repeat"? "no such thing as 30KHz WAV files"? references to "purism"? i'm quickly losing the plot here.
I don't know what to write here that won't be censored, as I can only speak in profanity.

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fmr wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:51 am
So, when we are converting samples from those old machines, we have to take into account what sample rates they used, and use a tool that can read and convert from those sample rates. Otherwise, we will be destroying the samples before we can make something useful with them.
But that's what I sayd to begin with, so you probably would expect bog standard PCM files out the other end. And not the corrupted, phase distorted, interpolated jittering fubar files like you keep suggesting. yust by taking into account the key they are is no longer the right key since there is a sample rate mismatch.

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you keep insisting that it's impossible to convert between sampling rates without altering pitch. that is not true. any decent audio editor can do that.
I don't know what to write here that won't be censored, as I can only speak in profanity.

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Skupje wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:40 am ... not the s like you keep suggesting. yust by taking into account the key they are is no longer the right key since there is a sample rate mismatch.
Again, WTF are you talking about? When did I suggest "corrupted, phase distorted, interpolated jittering fubar files"? :nutter:

I suggested KEEPING the original sample rate. It was you who came talking about new sample rates, transposing and whatnot. To what I replied that converting the sample rate didn't necessarily mean transposing. But since you are using a tool no one knows about, maybe you have a different approach :shrug:
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