bx_oberhausen from Plugin Alliance has landed

[nordickvr]

At the current intro price I wont even bother to download the demo ... way too expensive IMHO. The full price is ridiculous.

Where are people seeing the price, was it leaked somewhere ?

There was also an announcement pvost on GS, now deleted that I quote a few pages before (or was it on the other thread), that mentioned $149 and I believe $179 or $199.
rsp

All though those prices might be correct, I will wait until it comes up at the official PA website. Anything else I would consider to be speculations at this point.

I have an official confirmation:

"bx_oberhausen is available for purchase — as an AAX Native-, AU-, VST2-, and VST3-supporting Virtual Instrument plugin for MacOS (10.9 through 10.14) and Windows (7 through 10) — exclusively from Brainworx Audio’s US-based sister company/distribution partner Plugin Alliance for an introductory price of $179.00 USD, rising to $249.00 USD thereafter."

[videoeyes]

It's nice but to be honest I prefer the lite version of DS Thorn that I got for free with a Computer Music magazine - very worth the $6. To my ear it does that creamy SEM filter better than any other soft synth. Might just be my taste.

[Pluginbug]

I do wish the bx presets were better....or had more identifiable character, pow factor etc. Something.
I'm a little bored..

It might be more 'analog' than arturia, or maybe more of a correct emulation (I wouldn't know)....but the arturia's SEM presets sound much more conceptual & animated.

I've been demoing the bx a few days &, while it sounds like probably a quality emulation as usual, it reminds me of buying an old analog synth (& then you take it home & it sounds flatter & duller than you expected) & you realize you need to learn it & work it.

While Diva is thick & heavy & has lots of polished character-driven presets out the gate.
Arturia never sounds thick to me...but the presets are entertaining & surprising.

I'd assume this bx could do a lot.... I was playing with the percussion sounds which led to some craziness, but I'd have to spend a lot of time learning it to use it like a weapon...it wasn't 2nd nature.

[mcbpete]

Where are people seeing the price, was it leaked somewhere ?

I have an official confirmation:
"bx_oberhausen is available for purchase — as an AAX Native-, AU-, VST2-, and VST3-supporting Virtual Instrument plugin for MacOS (10.9 through 10.14) and Windows (7 through 10) — exclusively from Brainworx Audio’s US-based sister company/distribution partner Plugin Alliance for an introductory price of $179.00 USD, rising to $249.00 USD thereafter."

Yikes, that is indeed quite a lot if correct - I was expecting around $100 less on both the intro and full price...

[Elektronisch]

Dont forget to include Repro and The Legend whom are aswel polyphonic and amazing sounding emulations and less expensive. But thats only if you are comparing.

I personaly like the sound alot of Bx after playing around with it, especialy the stereo widening. Synth does sound alive.

[fold4]

It might be more 'analog' than arturia, or maybe more of a correct emulation (I wouldn't know)....but the arturia's SEM presets sound much more conceptual & animated.

The idea that how animated/fat/alive a sound is has anything to do with whether the source is analog (or a reasonably accurate emulation of analog) is one of those myths that just won't die.

What makes a sound any of those things is the way it is programmed and the way it is incorporated into a track. A well programmed digital sound will be just as fat and alive as an analog one. And a poorly programmed analog sound will be thin and dull.

Also, "emulated analog" anything is digital.

I do like the sound of this synth overall but I hear nothing special. Nothing that makes me go "I need another synth."

[Stefken]

Maybe this synth is just too late. It's a quality product but the market is pretty much saturated with VA's and there are (for me) already enough Oberheim emulations around. There is not much of a gap to fill anymore ...

I am a VA fan, but this emulation game is maybe getting a bit silly. IMO of course.

[fold4]

I agree. I want to see new things, not more emulations. Some of my favorite synths are emulations (though not of specific synths, just emulations of general analog behavior) and some are something else. But my interest in more emulations is limited. And this one just didn't grab me.

The promised Unfiltered Audio synth holds more interest for me and it doesn't even exist yet!

[W23]

I think we’ve all been jaded by Diva, the RePros, the Legend, etc. I don’t know if I’ll pick up Oberhausen during this particular sales period unless I can get it for...maybe $75, after my coupon and heavy hitters discount. You just KNOW it’ll go on sale again in reasonable period of time. They have those ridiculous 48 hour sales like, twice a month. It’ll happen, and I have plenty of other neat toys to play with in the meantime

[chk071]

I think we’ve all been jaded by Diva, the RePros, the Legend, etc.

I think oscillator and filter wise, it's right up there with them. The only thing which bothered me are the envelopes. Those unfortunately act like on a soft synth from ten years ago. Pretty sluggish.

[W23]

I think we’ve all been jaded by Diva, the RePros, the Legend, etc.

I think oscillator and filter wise, it's right up there with them. The only thing which bothered me are the envelopes. Those unfortunately act like on a soft synth from ten years ago. Pretty sluggish.

PA may have taken the vintage emulation thing a little too far with that. Then they threw in a Mod Matrix and 2nd LFO, which I’m pretty sure was non existent in the original SEM but, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong. Kind of weird, eh? Sluggish envelopes were not uncommon in some synths from that period but, it’s an odd quirk for a modern developer to embrace. I haven’t demo’ed Oberhausen yet but, I sure liked the Plugin Guru video

[gentleclockdivider]

It might be more 'analog' than arturia, or maybe more of a correct emulation (I wouldn't know)....but the arturia's SEM presets sound much more conceptual & animated.

The idea that how animated/fat/alive a sound is has anything to do with whether the source is analog (or a reasonably accurate emulation of analog) is one of those myths that just won't die.

What makes a sound any of those things is the way it is programmed and the way it is incorporated into a track. A well programmed digital sound will be just as fat and alive as an analog one. And a poorly programmed analog sound will be thin and dull.

Also, "emulated analog" anything is digital.

So all the experts in circuit emulation behaviour and developers like u-he , cytomic , xils et.. have been lying in our face all the time .
Let's burn them


And thank you for letting us know that ''emulated analog'' is digital .
Expert

[wagtunes]

It might be more 'analog' than arturia, or maybe more of a correct emulation (I wouldn't know)....but the arturia's SEM presets sound much more conceptual & animated.

The idea that how animated/fat/alive a sound is has anything to do with whether the source is analog (or a reasonably accurate emulation of analog) is one of those myths that just won't die.

What makes a sound any of those things is the way it is programmed and the way it is incorporated into a track. A well programmed digital sound will be just as fat and alive as an analog one. And a poorly programmed analog sound will be thin and dull.

Also, "emulated analog" anything is digital.

So all the experts in circuit emulation behaviour and developers like u-he , cytomic , xils et.. have been lying in our face all the time .
Let's burn them


And thank you for letting us know that ''emulated analog'' is digital .
Expert

Forgive him, for he knows not what he says.

[nordickvr]

Always knew my DX7 sounded f*****g fat

[Pluginbug]

It might be more 'analog' than arturia, or maybe more of a correct emulation (I wouldn't know)....but the arturia's SEM presets sound much more conceptual & animated.

The idea that how animated/fat/alive a sound is has anything to do with whether the source is analog (or a reasonably accurate emulation of analog) is one of those myths that just won't die.

What makes a sound any of those things is the way it is programmed and the way it is incorporated into a track. A well programmed digital sound will be just as fat and alive as an analog one. And a poorly programmed analog sound will be thin and dull.

Also, "emulated analog" anything is digital.

I do like the sound of this synth overall but I hear nothing special. Nothing that makes me go "I need another synth."

Exactly how I feel. I was hoping for classic analog sound doing some modern banging presets. I just didn't hear anything that made me wanna call someone & go "DID YOU HEAR THIS???". It does what it does well. I wish they'd look what can be done with Serum (even basic shapes) & Zebra2, even Thorn & make this into something edgier.
(I'm a total brainworx/PA fan btw. I like that their products are "different" from everybody.)

It's just kinda beige...