Looking for a combination of Breaktweaker and Serato Sample (Updated explanation with Audio Sample)

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minizzZ
KVRer
14 posts since 15 Aug, 2014

Post Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:36 am

Hello,

I'm looking for a Vsti like BreakTweaker for use in Reaper where you can load in a 1 bar beatloop on a track in the vsti and chop part of it in a cue region (see picture).The problem with BreakTweaker is that it only has a one shot sampler so the cue region (read the multiple beats) isn't synced with the BPM of the project. What I do like about BreakTweaker is that you can load in multiple samples on different tracks in BreakTweaker and that the length of the note is as long as how much of the cue region is played so if the note is 1/3 of the cue region you should only hear 1/3.
The problem with Serato Sample is that it doesn't have a multitrack sequencer like BreakTweaker where you can also load in parts of other beats. Also Serato Sample's beat detection for 1 bar loops is realllly bad and you can't change it manually. What it does is that the whole cue regions are synced with the bpm of the project

I cut up a 1 bar beatloop (with a beatloop of 134 BPM) up in Breaktweaker in three cue regions to show you what the problem is. In picture one the sequencer overview and in picture two what is in track 1 of that sequence. Also I made an audio example in which I play this sequence on 100 BPM. You can listen to it here: https://soundcloud.com/marinus-g-lwd/breaktweaker

I already tried Transfuser 2, Geist 2, HY-Slicer, TX16WX, Vice, Regroover and Egoist. But maybe I'm missing a setting so if I'm wrong please let me know.

Hope I explained it the right way and that you can help me.
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SoundPorn
KVRian
769 posts since 24 Jul, 2018

Re: Looking for a combination of Breaktweaker and Serato Sample

Post Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:17 am

Air Transfuser2

minizzZ
KVRer
14 posts since 15 Aug, 2014

Re: Looking for a combination of Breaktweaker and Serato Sample

Post Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:38 am

SoundPorn wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:17 am
Air Transfuser2
Can you tell me how? I've modified my post so I explained better what I'm looking for

MadUnit
KVRer
10 posts since 14 Mar, 2019

Re: Looking for a combination of Breaktweaker and Serato Sample

Post Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:57 pm

Regroover is worth a look.

minizzZ
KVRer
14 posts since 15 Aug, 2014

Re: Looking for a combination of Breaktweaker and Serato Sample

Post Sun Apr 21, 2019 4:18 am

MadUnit wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:57 pm
Regroover is worth a look.
Problem with that one is that you can't import two different audioclips in one project.

plauto
KVRist
176 posts since 21 Jul, 2004 from Brazil

Re: Looking for a combination of Breaktweaker and Serato Sample

Post Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:37 am

see serato studio, but it's still rudimentary, the idea is good

awol9000
KVRian
560 posts since 3 Sep, 2009 from Vancouver

Re: Looking for a combination of Breaktweaker and Serato Sample

Post Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:09 am

Maschine or Ableton?

plauto
KVRist
176 posts since 21 Jul, 2004 from Brazil

Re: Looking for a combination of Breaktweaker and Serato Sample

Post Sun Apr 21, 2019 10:14 am

Ableton

awol9000
KVRian
560 posts since 3 Sep, 2009 from Vancouver

Re: Looking for a combination of Breaktweaker and Serato Sample

Post Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:43 am

No I meant you can do this in Maschine or any DAW unless I'm misunderstand what you want to do.

shonky
KVRian
876 posts since 21 Nov, 2005

Re: Looking for a combination of Breaktweaker and Serato Sample

Post Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:26 pm

If you have Reaktor, you can try Twisted Tools Ultraloop. You have 8 loops, which are broken up into divisions and you can slow or speed up the original speed (would check the manual as it's been a while since I used this).

Would have thought you could do this in Geist as well as it does feature time-stretching, although possibly not on individual hits (again, check the manual). If it's on the global loop, you could just check different speed versions on different engines and just program beats between them.

minizzZ
KVRer
14 posts since 15 Aug, 2014

Re: Looking for a combination of Breaktweaker and Serato Sample

Post Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:36 am

I updated the explanation and put in more pictures and an audio example.

minizzZ
KVRer
14 posts since 15 Aug, 2014

Re: Looking for a combination of Breaktweaker and Serato Sample

Post Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:50 am

plauto wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:37 am
see serato studio, but it's still rudimentary, the idea is good
Both Serato Studio and Ableton are not vsti

minizzZ
KVRer
14 posts since 15 Aug, 2014

Re: Looking for a combination of Breaktweaker and Serato Sample

Post Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:51 am

awol9000 wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:43 am
No I meant you can do this in Maschine or any DAW unless I'm misunderstand what you want to do.
I updated the explanation

minizzZ
KVRer
14 posts since 15 Aug, 2014

Re: Looking for a combination of Breaktweaker and Serato Sample

Post Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:52 am

shonky wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:26 pm
If you have Reaktor, you can try Twisted Tools Ultraloop. You have 8 loops, which are broken up into divisions and you can slow or speed up the original speed (would check the manual as it's been a while since I used this).

Would have thought you could do this in Geist as well as it does feature time-stretching, although possibly not on individual hits (again, check the manual). If it's on the global loop, you could just check different speed versions on different engines and just program beats between them.
Thing is I want this done automaticly like in Serato Sample. Also the possibility to have only part of the sample being played in the geist2 sequencer isn't possible.

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pekbro
KVRAF
2620 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui

Re: Looking for a combination of Breaktweaker and Serato Sample

Post Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:05 am

But Breaktweaker's sampler is not limited to one shot mode. :shrug:

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