Valhalla Delay released

[martinjuenke]

I wonder what version will finally fix this critical error:

I know that people are just trying to be funny but there is a musical difference between an 8th note and an eighth note.

Had nothing to do with dotted eighths...they were pointing out that the word gutiar is misspelled.

What does Gutiar mean? Something dirty? Tell us more!

[ziggysane]

Ok, those who say this delay doesnt gel as some others, pls, make a simple ping pong delay with same settings on both delays and post examples here. Try to match bu ears as close as possible, than prove that vdelay doesnt gel with source.

It's not quite that simple. You need to test the delays in a congested mix. That's when you notice if something fits the mix or not. Having said that, the example in the above post does exactly what you just asked for, except there is only the dry and wet files, not a 3rd for comparison but you can just download the .wav and do it yourself.

For instance in the case of Valhalla reverbs (mainly room and vintage verb), they have the problem of quite easily congesting a busy mix. There will be a perceptual buildup of mid and low-mid frequencies whereas the exact opposite sometimes happens with for instance classic Lexicon algorithms.. they seem to instead phase cancel the mids and low-mids, thus actually alleviating problems in the mix instead of creating them. This is the very essence of "gelling with the mix" or not.

Preface: VVV and Plate are my main verbs.

I did get curious about this a while back and tested VVV against Lex PCM with a clean vocal, a frequency analyzer, and a parameter/ear matched Random Hall in VVV vs an untweaked RH preset in Lex to get an "algo to algo" comparison.

The Lex did have a natural cut in the mud/low mid range that wasn’t in the VVV. It was easily remedied with an EQ on the latter, but it is there.

[fisherKing]

i own all the valhalla plugins; mostly use vintageverb (and now, vintage ddl); def my faves. am hoping we see a new reverb this year as good as the ddl plugin is (altho really, VV is pretty great). oh yeah, and shimmer, which i don't use often, but which is great too.

[BRoySound]

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[vurt]

I wonder what version will finally fix this critical error:

I know that people are just trying to be funny but there is a musical difference between an 8th note and an eighth note.

Had nothing to do with dotted eighths...they were pointing out that the word gutiar is misspelled.

What does Gutiar mean? Something dirty? Tell us more!

its slang for the taint or gooch.

[Burillo]

I wonder what version will finally fix this critical error:

I know that people are just trying to be funny but there is a musical difference between an 8th note and an eighth note.

Had nothing to do with dotted eighths...they were pointing out that the word gutiar is misspelled.

What does Gutiar mean? Something dirty? Tell us more!

its slang for the taint or gooch.

so slang for a slang?

[vurt]

yup.


its not really though, its just a spelling mistake

[dubguy99]

Ok, those who say this delay doesnt gel as some others, pls, make a simple ping pong delay with same settings on both delays and post examples here. Try to match bu ears as close as possible, than prove that vdelay doesnt gel with source.

It's not quite that simple. You need to test the delays in a congested mix. That's when you notice if something fits the mix or not. Having said that, the example in the above post does exactly what you just asked for, except there is only the dry and wet files, not a 3rd for comparison but you can just download the .wav and do it yourself.

For instance in the case of Valhalla reverbs (mainly room and vintage verb), they have the problem of quite easily congesting a busy mix. There will be a perceptual buildup of mid and low-mid frequencies whereas the exact opposite sometimes happens with for instance classic Lexicon algorithms.. they seem to instead phase cancel the mids and low-mids, thus actually alleviating problems in the mix instead of creating them. This is the very essence of "gelling with the mix" or not.

Preface: VVV and Plate are my main verbs.

I did get curious about this a while back and tested VVV against Lex PCM with a clean vocal, a frequency analyzer, and a parameter/ear matched Random Hall in VVV vs an untweaked RH preset in Lex to get an "algo to algo" comparison.

The Lex did have a natural cut in the mud/low mid range that wasn’t in the VVV. It was easily remedied with an EQ on the latter, but it is there.

I was struggling with getting Vintage to sound like I want it to for quite a while. For some reason I never thought about it but using a fairly drastic (8-10db) cut in the low mids (+ a bit of a topend boost on the sides) really does help to make it sound more like a classic Lexicon. Thanks guys!

[dubguy99]

btw another thing that helps with 'sitting in the mix' is turning down the diffusion and room size, at 100% VVV is way more diffuse than a lot of classic reverbs. If you want oldschool Lexicon you have to also really crank that lowcut EQ to around 1-4k. At the default 8k, there's still way too much highend.

Also, the algos from Dirty Hall to Chaotic Hell generally have more depth and sit better in the mix than the early algos.

[jens]

If you want oldschool Lexicon you have to also really crank that lowcut EQ to around 1-4k. At the default 8k, there's still way too much highend.

You certainly mean highcut?

[SoundPorn]

I think what you guys are referring to as "Trouble Sitting In Mix" I think of as "Lush"
Anywho that's why Vahalla Plate exists because it doesn't have those problems and can be awfully transparent.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Sean posted a photo to Instagram of an EchoPlex and Fulltone tube tape delay with the caption "R&D." Looking forward to some new modes in the future.

[chk071]

I think what you guys are referring to as "Trouble Sitting In Mix" I think of as "Lush"

Depends on your definition of "lush", i guess.

[matteogk]

It was time I wasn't so happy of a plugin, especially of a Delay. Valhalla sounds so creative, gets you where the endless feedbacks can be controlled with ease and there to create the sound you imagine, in the outer space or in a can (and it never stress my machine...).
BTW, the many presets by Simon Stockhausen are a treasure mine.

Check its Phase Correlation, which is perfect (when a preset is well designed), and see if it can fit or not in a mix, please...

[bleen]

We've just uploaded the 1.0.6 beta into the user accounts. The change:

- New behavior for Ping Pong Style. This new version sends the output of the left delay channel directly to the input of the right delay channel, without any feedback scaling.

Why the change? Well, a lot of people thought that the old behavior was buggy, in that the right channel had its level determined by the feedback setting. This meant that there was no signal in the right delay channel, when feedback was at zero. The new behavior means that there will always be both a left and right delay signal, regardless of the feedback setting. The change brings the ValhallaDelay PingPong Style more into keeping with people's expectations of how ping pong delays should behave.

At higher feedback settings (i.e. how ping pong delays are normally used) the differences between the old way and the new way are more subtle. It is really with lower feedback settings where the new Ping Pong change can be heard.

This will be in beta for the next day or so. Assuming there aren't any major bugs found in the update, I'll make the 1.0.6 update the "official" version, and release demo versions at that time.

One important Ping Pong tip: You can always change the order in which the Ping and Pong happens, by setting WIDTH to -100%. This swaps the left and right delay outputs.