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Scotty · Post by **Scotty** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:53 pm

Man... can we keep this about the ideas instead of slagging off on the individual? None of us are "all that".

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:55 pm

never understood people going to gigs and drinking nothing but pop and water.
well, ive drunk nothing but pop and water myself, because alcohol doesn't go well with lsd or mdma.
but never just pop and water and nothing to bend my mind.
although, i don't understand people who can sit at home and do the same either

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:59 pm

good luck to the guy if hes entertaining people.
but that there is a genre or a few that don't require a traditional band set up, doesn't mean those genres are going anywhere that do.
rock and metal are still as big as ever (at least here in europe) ive seen that crowd go off a band because they dared use a new fx, let alone going full electronic

we will always need the imperfections of live acoustic phenomena, perfection is alien, something that catches attention but is ephemeral.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:02 pm

Scotty wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:53 pm Man... can we keep this about the ideas instead of slagging off on the individual? None of us are "all that".

Well, for my part I started with the the guy's 'ideas'. I've been talking about ideas, and there he is again with assertions that can't have any thought behind it really, plus there's history. If he's worried about 'they' will 'pull off' what he does with less than 20 bucks per se... well maybe one could let that speak for itself...

telecode · Post by **telecode** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:03 pm

jancivil wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:16 pm
telecode wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:01 pm
Talented musicians will probably benefit from this state of affairs as the 'skill' gap will widen.
Not really. The software tools out there that are catering to the amateur "musik produzah" are rendering your usefulness as a musician useless.

You have no idea what musicians beyond your interest do, let alone who would value what one does. So you're already in the narrowed down tinyworld you are comfortable with. If anyone ever talks about tech such as right in this thread which is advancing the state of affairs for the interested, your utter lack of intellectual curiosity overrules it in favor of this unexamined blather.

also NB: 'useless usefulness' is redundant. It underscores how stupid your whole look is.

You're useless.

edits: failure nesting quotes

Hey, how did you manage to turn a discussion of what we think the future of DAW's will pan out like into a personal attack on me? I am just basing my views based on what I am seeing. And sorry, I collaborate with a lot of different people, there is very little demand for well made flute jazz Debussey stuff. Everyone just want to know what is gong to be the next world class beat that will conquer the world. LOL

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:04 pm

vurt wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:55 pm never understood people going to gigs and drinking nothing but pop and water.
well, ive drunk nothing but pop and water myself, because alcohol doesn't go well with lsd or mdma.
but never just pop and water and nothing to bend my mind.
although, i don't understand people who can sit at home and do the same either

I haven't even smoked weed for a solid year.
I don't drink. If you're going for teh EDMs you'll need booze and pills or at least intravenous novacaine.

telecode · Post by **telecode** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:07 pm

jancivil wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:28 pm
telecode wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:01 pm there are tools out there that give then guitar strum samples and parts galore -- they dont need a guy like me with my guitar gear when they can pull it off somewhere for < $20. Its only going to get weirder in the future.
And somehow it just never occurs to you that the musician is going to know vastly more about what to do with this. No, it's just magical, anyone can just buy any product with 'strums' and 'parts' and the job is done. I can imagine you not being very necessary the way you present here.

I think you didn't brother to read my entire post. That's exactly what I was trying to say in it. There is hardly any demand for guitars or my gear as no one wants to pay for my "custom sounds" or controbutoin to their work because it doesn't matter because its going to get buried in the mix behind the snares and kicks -- they are more than happy to go to sounds.com and buy for $20 and add that.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:07 pm

jancivil wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:04 pm
vurt wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:55 pm never understood people going to gigs and drinking nothing but pop and water.
well, ive drunk nothing but pop and water myself, because alcohol doesn't go well with lsd or mdma.
but never just pop and water and nothing to bend my mind.
although, i don't understand people who can sit at home and do the same either
I haven't even smoked weed for a solid year.
I don't drink. If you're going for teh EDMs you'll need booze and pills or at least intravenous novacaine.

apparently over here, ketamine is big in the club scene.
which i don't understand as i tried it once and melted, didn't make me feel like dancing at all

telecode · Post by **telecode** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:08 pm

vurt wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:55 pm never understood people going to gigs and drinking nothing but pop and water.
well, ive drunk nothing but pop and water myself, because alcohol doesn't go well with lsd or mdma.
but never just pop and water and nothing to bend my mind.
although, i don't understand people who can sit at home and do the same either

believe it not. there is quite a big anti-alcohol and anti drugs movement with some younger audiences.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:09 pm

telecode wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:08 pm
vurt wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:55 pm never understood people going to gigs and drinking nothing but pop and water.
well, ive drunk nothing but pop and water myself, because alcohol doesn't go well with lsd or mdma.
but never just pop and water and nothing to bend my mind.
although, i don't understand people who can sit at home and do the same either
believe it not. there is quite a big anti-alcohol and anti drugs movement with some younger audiences.

idiots.
they'll grow up to be boring.

telecode · Post by **telecode** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:10 pm

jancivil wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:02 pm
Scotty wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 4:53 pm Man... can we keep this about the ideas instead of slagging off on the individual? None of us are "all that".
Well, for my part I started with the the guy's 'ideas'. I've been talking about ideas, and there he is again with assertions that can't have any thought behind it really, plus there's history. If he's worried about 'they' will 'pull off' what he does with less than 20 bucks per se... well maybe one could let that speak for itself...

Thats actually not what I posted. Thats what you chose to read into it. What i posted was, they would much rather pay $20 for 1000 genetic samples of guitar parts than pay $100 or $200 for one custom unique sound because they get more value for their money -- which is true.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:11 pm

teenagers are supposed to do stupid shit.
that's the rules.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:15 pm

what kind of anecdote is this?

"remember that night, we went out, all managed to get home safe on the last bus, with no problems"

wtf?

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:15 pm

'anti-drugs movement' - because it's not enough to make the choice for yourself, you need validation from a group and it being uber righteous
movements are always a waste of time and energy

Some people are so creative psychedelics are redundant. I'm glad I had them.

Scotty · Post by **Scotty** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:16 pm

The thread is really interesting to me.. I am not commenting on anyone in particular just if we can tamp down some of the personal stuff it might continue to be worthwhile following.... I get caught up in the ego stuff too... not claiming perfection .... just think that this is a good topic.

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