Where Will Digital Audio Workstations Be In 10 Years ?

[vurt]

compared to

"remember that weekend we went out, the three of us ended up getting held on suspicion of murder because youd gone missing after a massive nosebleed and no one heard from you for 3 days..."

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ketamine

that was a plot point in some British drama I tried to watch. Police procedural of some sort. Depressing, had to stop watching. Appears to be an anaesthetic essentially... "used to induce unconsciousness", what was I saying

causes a trance-like state and a sense of disconnection from the environment.
unsure how that would produce an hallucinogenic effect

[vurt]

ketamine

that was a plot point in some British drama I tried to watch. Police procedural of some sort. Depressing, had to stop watching. Appears to be an anaesthetic essentially... "used to induce unconsciousness", what was I saying

causes a trance-like state and a sense of disconnection from the environment.
unsure how that would produce an hallucinogenic effect

yeah its a veterinary tranquilizer

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I get caught up in the ego stuff too...

My issues with the things the one guy says has nothing at all to do with my own ego. You do not speak for me.

[vurt]

i should go clubbing and see if i end up in a room full of unconscious peeps

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ketamine

that was a plot point in some British drama I tried to watch. Police procedural of some sort. Depressing, had to stop watching. Appears to be an anaesthetic essentially... "used to induce unconsciousness", what was I saying

causes a trance-like state and a sense of disconnection from the environment.
unsure how that would produce an hallucinogenic effect

yeah its a veterinary tranquilizer

PCP all over again

Once in a motel in Midwest City, Oklahoma this AWOL from the Army woman dosed me and my friend so she could f**k him, and tried to when he was in the shower. I was out like a light.

Anyway, I don't have any sense of what developers will care about in ten years; if I extrapolated from new features in Nuendo there appears to be some work in VR which uses surround sound including a sense of height. So that's a kind of drug, and a sense of heightened awareness with some commercial application.

[vurt]

vr headsets with built in surround sound would be awesome!

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https://www.oculus.com/blog/beyond-surr ... cale=en_US

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[vurt]

https://www.oculus.com/blog/beyond-surr ... cale=en_US

now that's pretty cool.
only had a quick skim read, but the whole spacialised audio thing sounds cool.
im not so much interested in real world spaces though, i like the idea of the psychedelic visuals and using the audio to induce trance states, similar to the old brain machines or isolation tanks. and moving the sound around the head to help melt my brain

although i do fear my son finding my emaciated corpse after getting lost in some vr dimension

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The thread is really interesting to me.. I am not commenting on anyone in particular just if we can tamp down some of the personal stuff it might continue to be worthwhile following.... I get caught up in the ego stuff too... not claiming perfection .... just think that this is a good topic.

meh, just the usual hecklers on here trying to highjack threads. nothing to pay attention to.

as i stated earlier, the "music industry" as it pertains to "music creators" is a consumer industry catering to consumerism. these consumers view purchasing music creation tools the same as purchasing a game or a new mobile phone.

back in the 90s, the only people that purchased music creation tools such as DAWs and synths and drum machines were musicians with varying levels of skills and experience and competence and these were the consumers that companies catered to. things have changed. this have changed -- now you have consumers what are not musicians that are buying this stuff. some are musically skilled but a great many are not. a great many have very limited exposure to music styles and background and a great many can't even play an instrument. they are looking for convenient ways to be creative. this is what is driving the market. this is why FL Studio trumps ProTools in top 10 lists. These new consumers have access to the tools and are creating music and throwing it out there into the music space. One of the cools things is that they are using these tools in very different and unorthodox ways and are being very creative with it. you are getting new ideas and new things sonically. its all good. you just need to pull your head out of your greatest hits oldies collection and give it listen and allow yourself to be amazed. I have heard more unique and different sounds sonically in certain out there EDM type genres than can be found in the entire catalogs of Brian Eno and Daniel Lanois. Its all good.

[Scotty]

I was trying to strike a conciliatory tone. I missed the mark. - Scott

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My issues with the things the one guy says has nothing at all to do with my own ego. You do not speak for me.
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Well, there is no overcoming my distrust for the motivation of, or antipathy to this quality of discourse:
"Talented musicians will probably benefit from this state of affairs as the 'skill' gap will widen."

Not really
software [...] rendering your usefulness as a musician useless
there are tools out there that they are load up a wave file of whatever song they want to make and it will throw back at the the key and the temp and the changes. something that might have been something they would have needed to turn to a musician for at one time.[/sic - learn how to form a sentence]

One could reflect on this, instead there's this idiot confidence it's something to type; it affirms nothing and seeks to negate, in favor of talking. It never occurred to him that people who lack the very basis for any competence at all have no use for musicianship by definition, oh no, it overwhelms any and all consideration of <benefit> for the 'talented' or accomplished musician. "Not really", no really, really. The limited things in Cubendo as to a display of more than one pulse level benefitted me hugely in the last project. I'm not trying to be employed by somebody with no clue or wherewithal, that type, and yes there is evidently that type has no bearing whatsoever on anything, so there is no relevance at all to that opinion, ie., it's not an opinion based in 'really'. I try not to see that shit, I have the individual on mute but somebody had to reply with the quoting feature. He's probably trying to retaliate, I don't care. I was more together at 12 than that, so no, it's not about me competing with the individual.

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(benefited. )

So I think it would be great in ten years if Cubase nested tuplets per se. Or ten years ago. It's ok, I can deal with it anyway.
Maybe I could look at Kyma, that application by Malcom Braff there is probably not going to adopted for a regular DAW anytime soon. Really, that happened, leveraging the sound design analysis capability to explore all the shades in between eg., triplet 8ths and 8th-16th (Brazilian 16ths). And it's there so one has a tool for thought and reflection in order to advance one's rhythmic prowess.

[telecode]

Well, there is no overcoming my distrust for the motivation of, or antipathy to this quality of discourse:
"Talented musicians will probably benefit from this state of affairs as the 'skill' gap will widen."

Not really
software [...] rendering your usefulness as a musician useless
there are tools out there that they are load up a wave file of whatever song they want to make and it will throw back at the the key and the temp and the changes. something that might have been something they would have needed to turn to a musician for at one time.[/sic - learn how to form a sentence]

One could reflect on this, instead there's this idiot confidence it's something to type; it affirms nothing and seeks to negate, in favor of talking. It never occurred to him that people who lack the very basis for any competence at all have no use for musicianship by definition, oh no, it overwhelms any and all consideration of <benefit> for the 'talented' or accomplished musician. "Not really", no really, really. The limited things in Cubendo as to a display of more than one pulse level benefitted me hugely in the last project. I'm not trying to be employed by somebody with no clue or wherewithal, that type, and yes there is evidently that type has no bearing whatsoever on anything, so there is no relevance at all to that opinion, ie., it's not an opinion based in 'really'. I try not to see that shit, I have the individual on mute but somebody had to reply with the quoting feature. He's probably trying to retaliate, I don't care. I was more together at 12 than that, so no, it's not about me competing with the individual.

What are you ranting about again? You are once again having completely different conversations than what is being discussed. We are not talking about who is a musician, who deserves or does not deserve to be called a musician, should or should not a musica get paid, or how much or how little they should know music theory. We are taking about music production aka music creation and tools. The term pertains not to the music producers of ole' but to what the term exactly states that is says it is a "music producer" is someone who "produces" something that resembles "music" to someone else out there who happens to likes to listen to it. it is distinct from how many instruments and notes can you play and how much of a Berkley School of music wanker you may happen to aspire to be in this life. I dont care if you use FL Studio or Nuendo or plastic leggo to make music -- if you make something that sounds like it strikes a chord with an audience -- you are making music and you are producing it and its relevant to society as a cultural entity. it doesn't matter if you are a hip hopper or EDM'er or a jazz wanker.

I am sorry that the rest of the world of modern music does not revolve around the likes of James Last and his f**king flute and that the likes of Drake and Shrillex are more intune with modern audiences. What can I say, things happen the least way you expect them.

here, go on and get your kicks..
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