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Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 6:43 pm

hey guys, i love spectrasonics products, have also keyscape and omnisphere 2, i still peep to trilian for extra patches etc. but i wonder if it ONLY is recomenndable if you want acoustic basses? cause omnisphere can do already synthbasses and is covered i guess.

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:05 pm

IMO, the synth basses are much better in Trilian. And of course, Omni doesn't really have any of those other basses (electric/acoustic).

sinemotor · Post by **sinemotor** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:07 pm

If you already have Omnisphere 2, Trilian will not add much synth basses wise. Most of the synth bass patches use sampled saw, triangle, square, etc from analog synths and processing (filters, fx chain...) from the Trilian engine which is the same as Omni.

Actually Omnisphere 2 has many of these analog synths waveforms in the wavetable section. I did compare some (with freq spectrum and inverting the phases) like ARP 2600, SH101 or Moog in Omni and they were sounding the same. I could recreate the patches in Omnisphere with the dsp waveforms instead.

It's a great instrument and the electric/acoustic basses are obisouly really well recorded and have great details.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:21 pm

Thx guys so mostly it would be a great additions if i would be after electric and acoustic basses. Hmmm needa see. Im no good bass player ahahaha

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:32 pm

A recent thread might be worth a re-read Caine - viewtopic.php?f=1&t=521395&p=7335037 .

Truthfully, I often don't know what comes from where when it comes to Synth Bass, I tend to search All Spectrasonics. There's some handy wavetables and samples, but overall I think most of my Synth Basses come from Omni or 3rd Party.

But I do use it a ton for acoustic bass and electrics. Recently I used Modo in a track, and before long I'd gone back to Trilian. Modo does sound terrific really, but there's something about Trilian that is just right for so many different specific sounds. And if I want REALLY real, I play it

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 9:58 pm

thx a lot guys! sadly this never goes on sale ;D

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:15 am

I love all the categories of bass sounds in Trilian. The Synth basses are my go to for nice analog bass tones. Preferably mixed with the Drop filter.

And even though there are lots of good options for bass, with more realistic articulations, I still think the way the trilian basses were recorded are unique enough to make them always useful. There is just a massive sound full of presence to them.

dandezebra · Post by **dandezebra** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:28 am

I have tried a few other plugins or libraries for acoustic and electric bass, and like others have said, I keep coming back to Trilian. Almost like it meshes better with my tracks than others.

Kinh · Post by **Kinh** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:00 am

sinemotor wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:07 pm If you already have Omnisphere 2, Trilian will not add much synth basses wise. Most of the synth bass patches use sampled saw, triangle, square, etc from analog synths and processing (filters, fx chain...) from the Trilian engine which is the same as Omni.

Actually Omnisphere 2 has many of these analog synths waveforms in the wavetable section. I did compare some (with freq spectrum and inverting the phases) like ARP 2600, SH101 or Moog in Omni and they were sounding the same. I could recreate the patches in Omnisphere with the dsp waveforms instead.

It's a great instrument and the electric/acoustic basses are obisouly really well recorded and have great details.

Not true. The synth basses in Omnisphere dont stack up against Trilian in terms of sound quality and volume. There were a few added in the 'hardware' library but not really that many compared to Trilian.

Kinh · Post by **Kinh** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:11 am

It doesn't just do acoustic and synth basses, it does tap, mute, slap, pick, finger and a variety of models. I quit playing bass after I bought trilian. The quality is great.
The synth basses however are the reason you should buy it. They cover everything. You're not gonna get anything close from any sampled based or emulated libraries to match them, especially from UVI.

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:37 pm

Kinh wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:00 amNot true. The synth basses in Omnisphere dont stack up against Trilian in terms of sound quality and volume. There were a few added in the 'hardware' library but not really that many compared to Trilian.

Double not true. In terms of numbers, Omni 2.6 has about 440 Synth Bass patches across its various libraries, while Trilian has 290 and another 30 or so in the VIP area. For BPM Bass patches it's closer - about 230 each.

IMO some of the best Spectrasonics synth basses are in the Hardware Omni 2.5 library. In a way, the Hardware library synth basses steal a bit of Trilian's thunder.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 3:29 pm

noiseboyuk wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2019 12:37 pm
Kinh wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:00 amNot true. The synth basses in Omnisphere dont stack up against Trilian in terms of sound quality and volume. There were a few added in the 'hardware' library but not really that many compared to Trilian.
Double not true. In terms of numbers, Omni 2.6 has about 440 Synth Bass patches across its various libraries, while Trilian has 290 and another 30 or so in the VIP area. For BPM Bass patches it's closer - about 230 each.

IMO some of the best Spectrasonics synth basses are in the Hardware Omni 2.5 library. In a way, the Hardware library synth basses steal a bit of Trilian's thunder.

There' ssome ok stuff there in the hardware library for basses for sure, which are dsp osc based. I think that the sampled bass synth sources have a bit of an edge though, they really captured some massive sounds there.

datroof · Post by **datroof** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:57 pm

Personally, I think most of the Trillian sounds are outdated - Trillian is getting pretty old and there are better alternatives available. The main exception is the acoustic bass selection. Nothing earth shattering, but they always seem to sit very nicely in a mix.

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 7:31 pm

datroof wrote: Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:57 pm Personally, I think most of the Trillian sounds are outdated - Trillian is getting pretty old and there are better alternatives available. The main exception is the acoustic bass selection. Nothing earth shattering, but they always seem to sit very nicely in a mix.

I really don’t think that bass guitar and vintage synths get outdated. As far as the sampling quality I don’t think anyone has beat them since. Unless you are purely talking about scripting and articulations in which case some other bass products have an edge like mood or NI scarbee.

datroof · Post by **datroof** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 10:52 pm

It's all subjective of course. I've been impressed with the Orange Tree basses - especially the latest two. Trillian has been in my collection for several years, and I'm very familiar with it. I don't use it, except for the upright sounds. Even when it was new, I wasn't impressed with Trillians selection of bass guitar sounds, but that acoustic bass is still one of my go-to's.
For synth-bass, Bassiliscious (sp?) by Gospel Musicians is very nice.

Trilian - still awesome? also for synth basses?