Super 8 - New polysynth by Native Instruments

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

- Hey we have this new simple synth with great sound and no need to go deep into menu and tabs!
- You lack of innovation! I saw something similar thousand times!
- Hey we have this new synth with experimental engine and synthesis technology!
- It's too complex give me something easy to work with!
- Hey we have this simple synth with some new/unusual synthesis technology!
- I need to use Reaktor which means 3 more mouse click I can't be bothered with such amount of tasks to do!!!!!!!!
- But you can use it in Komplete Kontrol/[other alternative method]
- Idc! I don't want to use simpler way I just don't want to use your product at all!
-...
- How you dare to offer me this synth that I don't want!!!!!!!!

^^^kvraudio in summary

As a dose of cynicism it's unfounded. As a joke, it just ain't funny*



*That's a subjective opinion which, like the for and against opinions in this thread, I have the right to hold

[Lotuzia]

Listening to audio demos on NIs site. Not especially analog sounding in the 'warm' sense of the term -to my ears-, but more ... on the digital side. Not what I'd use to make any synthwave covers or inspired/derived works. (Wich is not bad or good per se, but just my first on the fly perception of it, based on NIs audio demos, the walkthrough video giving very few, and very short audio examples, and the on the fly building of a patch giving me the feeling that it could be almost any other synth)

I don't gel at all with the UI/GUI at first sight, but this doesn't meant it can't be effective and fast to use.(or maybe I'm just too old fashioned to fully enjoy these flatter than flat bio designs -looks more like a powerpoint document than a synth but well-) This said, despite my reluctance, it's an interesting GUI with asomewhat innovative concept. Maybe it's nice to use in actual studio works.

Another synth to explore. Maybe. Someday. Will not replace any of my analog emus though, should my first impressions be more/less confirmed by more in depth practise and analysis.

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

Well the filter was modeled from scratch, the oscillator design is also something that is not found in factory Core macros, there was a bunch of tweaking to get 8 voices of poly with acceptable CPU load (it ain't worse than Roland Cloud emulations, in fact it's better than, say Roland's Jupiter-8, when I compare them with 8 voices going), and then there's iterations upon iterations of UI design...

I don't have the numbers but it could've easily taken over a year.

Fair enough

[EvilDragon]

Maybe it's nice to use in actual studio works.

It's super-quick to use and get good/great sounds out of it. Simply because everything is there on one page. Consider it as a beefed-up (Alpha) Juno through Prophet-5 filter crossbreed with (way) more possibilies.

[Lotuzia]

Maybe it's nice to use in actual studio works.

It's super-quick to use and get good/great sounds out of it. Simply because everything is there on one page. Consider it as a beefed-up (Alpha) Juno through Prophet-5 filter crossbreed with (way) more possibilies.

Yes, but well, I don't mind at all clicking on a tab, or even a lot of tabs, to get that exact/precise sound I want. So this kind of considerations have never been an valid argument -for me, but different people can/should think otherwise-.
This doesn't mean that the super8 can't offer good sounds of course. I'm just wondering what precise type of sounds, and what place they could fill in my sound palette. Or, in the worst case, if I really want them. From my primary impression, there's no real urge to solve this dilemna though. This said, I already have around two dozens of synths that can more/less cover most of my needs. First synth buyers could have a totally different POV, and different needs/desires.

[Biome_Digital]

Its a very good sounding synth, but also a CPU hog...Init preset - 13% of CPU meter and any patch goes from 15-18%. Some sort of bug?

No, just the way Reaktor is. Monark hits 6-7% CPU for a single voice on my PC (but it's set to run at twice the sample rate by default), whereas with 8 voices going, Super 8 is never going above 14%, so this is pretty good all things considering, by comparison. 7 voices more than Monark in half the CPU.

have to say though, having only 8 voice poly as a selling point in 2019 sucks balls

Max poly can be increased in instrument properties if you use full Reaktor.

Thanks for that! was running out of voices with pads.

[pixel85]

^^^kvraudio in summary

(the only thing it's missing is a plugin doctor screenshot )

How I could forgot about it

[gentleclockdivider]

I can understand why people compain it's reaktor instrument because of the cpu overhead, but complaining because it's such a big hassle to open it in reaktor is just nuts >
It's just one mouseclick more ,that's hardly an issue >
The cpu overhead is .

It isn't just one more mouseclick... I open Reaktor, then I have to select the ensemble folder of the ensemble I want.

Reaktor has a favourites folder

Or you could just drag the ensemble from win explorer .
When working with reaktorr , I always have one explorer window open in which all my ensembles reside

[DJ Warmonger]

Maybe it's nice to use in actual studio works.

It's super-quick to use and get good/great sounds out of it. Simply because everything is there on one page. Consider it as a beefed-up (Alpha) Juno through Prophet-5 filter crossbreed with (way) more possibilies.

Yes, but well, I don't mind at all clicking on a tab, or even a lot of tabs, to get that exact/precise sound I want.

Uhh, then choose another synth? This one was never meant to be sound designer's dream, I suppose.

[pixel85]

- Hey we have this simple synth with some new/unusual synthesis technology!
- I need to use Reaktor which means 3 more mouse click I can't be bothered with such amount of tasks to do!!!!!!!!
^^^kvraudio in summary

Not exatly. It should be:

- Hey we have this simple synth with some new/unusual synthesis technology!
- I need to use Reaktor which means extra CPU taxing and use restraints for something that should be really lightweight and straightforward to justify its use!!!!!!!!

Let put things this way: If the planned Massive X would be a Reaktor Player ensemble, do you think its interest would be:

a) More
b) The Same
c) Less

Empty Reaktor really tax CPU? I must admit that it never came to my attention and I work on a 5 years old pc. Opening ensemble from the list in Reaktor is also not something that will kill workflow or consume who knows how much time (and people already wrote alternative faster ways to do it). Idk... I feel like people are becoming more and more fragile with every year and they uplift small things to something that in their eyes looks like a matter of life and death.

I don't think that Massive X would have an huge impact on sales if it would be in Reaktor (Player). I got feeling that people complaining about Reaktor are in huge but vocal minority. Especially with young newcomers coming every year who are familiar with multitasking environment and few clicks here and there is nothing to them.

[pixel85]

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As a dose of cynicism it's unfounded. As a joke, it just ain't funny*



*That's a subjective opinion which, like the for and against opinions in this thread, I have the right to hold

No worries. I have terrible sense of humour that bites me all the time

[jarnold]

c) Less

[mcbpete]

No worries. I have terrible sense of humour that bites me all the time

Nah stick to your guns man, I found it funny anyways !

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

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As a dose of cynicism it's unfounded. As a joke, it just ain't funny*



*That's a subjective opinion which, like the for and against opinions in this thread, I have the right to hold

No worries. I have terrible sense of humour that bites me all the time

Well, at least you intended it to be a joke. No problems!

[Sound Mechanics]

Maybe it's nice to use in actual studio works.

It's super-quick to use and get good/great sounds out of it. Simply because everything is there on one page. Consider it as a beefed-up (Alpha) Juno through Prophet-5 filter crossbreed with (way) more possibilies.

Yes, but well, I don't mind at all clicking on a tab, or even a lot of tabs, to get that exact/precise sound I want.

Uhh, then choose another synth? This one was never meant to be sound designer's dream, I suppose.

With those modulation options I reckon it could produce enough interesting sounds for most designers.
It is also quick to use having one page.