Super 8 - New polysynth by Native Instruments

[vurt]

As for "companies which do extraordinary well on the market" : What does that even mean? Are you suggesting that their market success invalidates any contrary opinion? Or that it there success is a measure of them getting everything right?

No. Just that there's a certain discrepancy between the feedback here, and the amount of people actually buying, and liking the products.

tbf, the synth doesn't really do anything totally new.
many of us have been around long enough we may have its bases covered. that said, doesn't mean it's boring.

however, as an addition to nis roster, it's great. they can be seen as a one stop shop for everything, their controllers interface directly.
this is a great selling point for some, not so much for others.

and i doubt anyone at ni thought this would be for everyone or even be seen as some new innovation, i dont think that's the point, they saw a gap in their own collection and filled it

[wagtunes]

They have about 400 employees. Show me another similar company who has that amount, and is doing so well.

Regardless, as far as Super 8 specifically, we don't know how successful it will be. I mean do you really think every product that every big company comes out with is successful? I can tell you from having worked at big companies and having compiled their sales reports that big companies can have some really poor performing products.

[chk071]

They have about 400 employees. Show me another similar company who has that amount, and is doing so well.

Regardless, as far as Super 8 specifically, we don't know how successful it will be. I mean do you really think every product that every big company comes out with is successful?

No. But, i surely think they know much better what the market expects than any of us here. Being successful means being able to know what the people want, and deliver it.

Regardless of KVR pulling a sulky face or not.

[wagtunes]

They have about 400 employees. Show me another similar company who has that amount, and is doing so well.

Regardless, as far as Super 8 specifically, we don't know how successful it will be. I mean do you really think every product that every big company comes out with is successful?

No. But, i surely think they know much better what the market expects than any of us here. Being successful means being able to know what the people want, and deliver it.

Regardless of KVR pulling a sulky face or not.

Sure, just like Coca Cola, the biggest soft drink company in the world, knew that "New Coke" was going to be a smashing success.

Just because a company is big doesn't mean they know all and see all. Sometimes they can be wrong.

[chk071]

Sure. They can. I wonder why there are so many people in this thread implying that they are wrong in advance, though.

[wagtunes]

Sure. They can. I wonder why there are so many people in this thread implying that they are wrong in advance, though.

All they're doing is expressing their lack of enthusiasm for this product. You, on the other hand, seem to be saying that people at KVR are in the minority of those who won't like Super 8. Except you can't possibly know that. For all you know, a great segment of the music population could very well be underwhelmed with this product.

Hey, I hate KVR as much as the next guy, but when it comes to voicing opinions about a product, if the vast majority say it's nothing to get excited about, you gotta wonder how far that will carry into the rest of the world.

Ultimately, we're never going to know if Super 8 is a hit or not. None of us will. So all of this is kind of pointless anyway.

[chk071]

Sure. They can. I wonder why there are so many people in this thread implying that they are wrong in advance, though.

All they're doing is expressing their lack of enthusiasm for this product. You, on the other hand, seem to be saying that people at KVR are in the minority of those who won't like Super 8. Except you can't possibly know that.

I know what i read on a daily base here. And then i take a look at how big and small the companies are. And laugh. Usually. It's unfortunate that the internet mostly hoards the complainers, whiners, and loners. On the other hand, it's only logical, if you think about it. The next unfortunate thing is that many people seem to care about the minority who shouts on the net. That's why politics are such a mess these days, and the reason why they're not made for the majority of people anymore, but rather for the minority whiners, who shout the loudest.

Anyway. It's not that i'm super enthusiastic about this either. I think Super-8 sounds nice, but, as far as i'm concerned, it rather seems like a offspring of Massive X development, and i'll rather wait for that one, especially as i expect a upgrade path from Massive 1.

[ShawnG]

It’s hard to deny that there isn’t an undercurrent of hipsterism present here though. U-he releases a simple one page synth that does absolutely nothing new in terms of synth evolution (hive) and we lap it up, NI does the same thing and the haterade starts flowing. Human nature.

[chk071]

Yep.

[martinjuenke]

It’s hard to deny that there isn’t an undercurrent of hipsterism present here though. U-he releases a simple one page synth that does absolutely nothing new in terms of synth evolution (hive) and we lap it up, NI does the same thing and the haterade starts flowing. Human nature.

Same with Synthmaster 2 and Synthmaster One. Or the praises for Rob Papen Go2...

[martinjuenke]

chk017 is right with his analysis imo

[wagtunes]

It’s hard to deny that there isn’t an undercurrent of hipsterism present here though. U-he releases a simple one page synth that does absolutely nothing new in terms of synth evolution (hive) and we lap it up, NI does the same thing and the haterade starts flowing. Human nature.

FWIW, Hive is my least favorite of the U-he synths.

[Sinisterbr]

It’s hard to deny that there isn’t an undercurrent of hipsterism present here though. U-he releases a simple one page synth that does absolutely nothing new in terms of synth evolution (hive) and we lap it up, NI does the same thing and the haterade starts flowing. Human nature.

I understand your point, but I can't see this as a good comparison. Hive doesn't need Reaktor to work. One can launch Hive in a blink of an eye.

[Stefken]

They have about 400 employees. Show me another similar company who has that amount, and is doing so well.

Right. If it is a big company, they strike gold whatever they do. Some people idolise an one man business and others are big company groupies apparently.

[spacepluk]

I just tried the demo and I think it sounds very nice, and I like the UI. Also, on my machine it's using considerably less cpu than Repro-5 for similar sounds.