Is it possible not to laugh when someone says calls them self a "producer"?

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I don't think of myself as someone who "produces." I'm more of an emitter, really.

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topaz wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 2:17 pm Well, if someone produces music they are a music producer, the same as someone who grows potatoes is a potato producer.
Actually, I would use the term "farmer".

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pc correct is probably agricultural engineer
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oxygenmask wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 11:32 pm
topaz wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 2:17 pm Well, if someone produces music they are a music producer, the same as someone who grows potatoes is a potato producer.
Actually, I would use the term "farmer".
Well, some farmers make music, but not all of them.

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I'd chuckle if they called themselves reproducers.

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Excellent, thanks for this. (I can get some serious mileage from this image with all of the braindead Trump supporters I encounter daily on social media.) :tu:

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Yes it is possible. For example, I consider myself an astronaught. The real key is to deliberately avoid having any awareness of what an astronaught really does. Then I'm just free as a bird, but in space, and alive.
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I wouldn't pretend anything myself !

...but by the fact that, handling all budgets while arranging musicians in Burkina Faso, I'm suddenly handling the rôle of "producer" in this country

8) :oops:

"Producteur d' Artistes"

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telecode wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 9:13 pm I don't believe the Internet media hype.
Says the internet poster substituting personal anecdote for hard evidence.
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ghettosynth wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 11:34 pm
oxygenmask wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 11:32 pm
topaz wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 2:17 pm Well, if someone produces music they are a music producer, the same as someone who grows potatoes is a potato producer.
Actually, I would use the term "farmer".
Well, some farmers make music, but not all of them.

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whyterabbyt wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 11:43 am
telecode wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 9:13 pm I don't believe the Internet media hype.
Says the internet poster substituting personal anecdote for hard evidence.
My hard evidence I present pertains to my own personal observation of what I see where I live. It may or may not apply to other places. But judging by the fact that even the big retailer Walmart and Costco music shelves are about 1/10th of the size they were 5 or 6 years ago. That's go to tell you something about the general state of music sales.
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i go by how busy the local record shops are.
i see a lot of kids coming in and out wearing tshirts from classic bands and new stuff I've never heard of, carrying bags that contain physical 12" slabs of vinyl :)

is it as popular as it was? no, but then we didn't have a multibillion pound game industry to spend our spare cash on.

its changed, but it's far from dead.
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vurt wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 2:26 pm i go by how busy the local record shops are.
i see a lot of kids coming in and out wearing tshirts from classic bands and new stuff I've never heard of, carrying bags that contain physical 12" slabs of vinyl :)

is it as popular as it was? no, but then we didn't have a multibillion pound game industry to spend our spare cash on.

its changed, but it's far from dead.
I go by what I see the middle class spend their disposable income on. So I am in an area and socialize with people that are all roughly in the similar household income bracket and stage of life. No lawyers or doctors -- all just regular folks -- but also no low income . So everyone is sort of over 35 with kids in the burbs. Entertainment and socializing consists of a lot of house parties and different people take turns putting no the house party. The cost is anywhere from $300 to $500 for a house party. About 30 to 40% on food and the rest on alcohol. Not a single dime goes to music or entertainment. Its all streamed from an iphone from YouTube or something else over bluetooth party speakers at insane volumes. I compare this to house parties my parents had where I remember the old geezers showing off their big LP collections and stereo systems and so on. I also make it a habit of asking people who put on the stream who their fav artist is and whether they bought the release or not. I actually don't think a single person ever answered yes. And they are a lot of Drake and hip-hop and latino music fans who like to get wasted on hard liquor at parties.

My point is, people have no issues blowing $100 a good bottle of booze, but no one wants to spend a dime on music.
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your middle class friends are shite!
my working class friends spend double that on the booze alone, then theres the "other inebriating items" and theres usually at least a dj, if not local musos up for a jam :shrug:

working class people know how to party, because they also know theres f**k all left to do :D
middle classes live to work, working classes work to live.

have iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!!!!!! :party:

you wanna bring class division in to it? :hihi:
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i was once invited to a party at a more affluent friends house.
people were "talking" :? (not shouting)
there was some music on in the background but i couldn't tell you what because i could barely hear it over all the people "talking" :?
i was home by half past ten.
the same bloody night :o
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