FYI!! Melda SoundFactory ON SALE til JUNE 30

[Kwurqx]

Took a few hours this morning to explore MSF. Figuring out about various possible Subtractive/Additive/FM/AM structures (mainly via Merger) and Oscillator options. And some of the filter types and configurations. It does not disappoint anywhere so far. Easily produces many sounds of all sorts of natures.

[Niowiad]

but MSF was for me a no brainer, it is monster, and i like it!

Oh yes, MSoundFactory is absolutely ridiculous and has insane potential with the planned features.
It sounds like sampling will be treated very much in depth, way more than I actually thought.
Much likely worth the full price, looking at the competition. Let alone at the intro discount price or upgrade paths.
I've paid the current maximum (99€), I've seen people paying even less. Total bargain.

[WasteLand]

Took a few hours this morning to explore MSF. Figuring out about various possible Subtractive/Additive/FM/AM structures (mainly via Merger) and Oscillator options. And some of the filter types and configurations. It does not disappoint anywhere so far. Easily produces many sounds of all sorts of natures.

i didn't go that deep, although.., but i have same impression. greetings from "Vink"

but MSF was for me a no brainer, it is monster, and i like it!

Oh yes, MSoundFactory is absolutely ridiculous and has insane potential with the planned features.
Much likely worth the full price, looking at the competition. Let alone at the intro discount price.
I've paid the current maximum (99€), I've seen people paying even less. Total bargain.

yes, some had it for less than €30, but than you must have the right plugin, and some "credit", i had my sign up credit, 10, so i payed €89, which is for this thing, is very very low.

yes against the competition; this one, but people want to have xx of xx, can beat them, i am guessing. just a feeling. in terms of potential and effects, and modulation possibilities. and the sound is great.

EDIT: about the competition; it is always a matter of taste, personal goals, etc. so i don't want a KVR discussion about the best. the best synths are the best. and many are...

[Kwurqx]

about the competition; it is always a matter of taste, personal goals, etc. so i don't want a KVR discussion about the best. the best synths are the best. and many are...

Haha, I also almost named some "competion" in my earlier post, but did't. I don't want to start a BETTER/BEST/WORST/WORSE "discussion". Comparisons only tell you so much. And yes, it's most often pretty subjective too.

I thinks it's all about exploiting the "strengths" of each. And finding alternatives for the "weaknesses".

After going in-the-box several years ago, I've mainly "limited" myself to the many great options in the free domain (and still use many great free plugins). I actually own only a few commercial synths (and FX) that (to me) really stand out (mostly in versatility).

And Melda Sound Factory definitely is one of those...

[gentleclockdivider]

FOund another bug
When using 2 sine oscillators into a merge module set to FM mode
The first portion (cycles ) of the resulting output misses the negative parts of the waveform ( see screenshot ) , resulting is a low res sounding attack portion .
Oversampling doesn't cure the problem .
modulating the depth is also verry noisy ( sample accurate event processing is on )

[mevla]

Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks like you're not using the multi-output version. There are two separate plugins, "MSoundFactory" and "MSoundFactory6out".

You're right. Why I didn't see the 6out version is that I'm using Linux and linvst which means that for each plugin I have to manually put in place a corresponding .so file. I usally add such a file when I see a new (beta) plugin in the installation app. For MSF I added one w/o taking a look at the actual files in directory.

[mevla]

Well, I'd be very disappointed if after the official non beta version came out that my "kitchen sink" version suddenly vanished from my plugins list and was replaced by a stripped down version. Yes, I'm one of those crazy people who likes programming stupidly complex synths.

I just don't want that taken away from me.

Well, ask Vojtech directly in the Melda forum on KVR.

[Kalamata Kid]

That's true, I've seen that post. Although I don't know how this thing will play out.
That would screw over the sales for the entire melda product line, so I'm sort of skeptical and dumbfounded by the thing.

Why would anyone buy the other plugins or the MXXX (999€) if they can just buy MPS? I have no clue.

yes that are my thought too. so i wonder how it will be implemented.

is it worth, i repeat to buy, MXXCore? for future plans...

Exactly my thought , but MSF can't be loaded as an effect plugin , and therefore mxxx will only work in msf as a plugin .

Edit : I see now that msf will be released as an efeects plugin
These melda plugins framework/kernel is imho both a curse and a blessing
https://www.meldaproduction.com/technol ... gin-kernel

Still scratching my head!
MSF will have access to all of MXXX?
And now that MXXX is included well I just about made up my mind to buy!
and
If MSF is released as an effects plugin that would wonderful.
Would it be a paid updgrade/update?

[exponent1]

MXXX can process audio, whereas MXXX modules in MSF are only for MSF. Infact MSF also includes the MDrummer modules.

I don't think MSF will be released as an FX plugin, that would be commercial suicide since they already have MXXX as a product.

[Kalamata Kid]

MXXX can process audio, whereas MXXX modules in MSF are only for MSF. Infact MSF also includes the MDrummer modules.

I don't think MSF will be released as an FX plugin, that would be commercial suicide since they already have MXXX as a product.

1. That is still fantastic to have full access to the MXXX modules inside MSF.

2. I agree but then they may be planning to take over the world.

[DPhil]

… And I couldn't find something simple like an arpeggiator. I knew from MPowerSynth that they're good in hiding it somewhere in a row, but I couldn't manage discover it this time. How many pop ups do I have to open to see it?
…

The arp switch is in the GUI's lower right corner, under "MIDI", on the "Toolbar", which is not a pop up, but might be closed, in which case it'd be the right-most vertical button… When open, the Toolbar's the one with the A-H rectangles and the Limiter at the top.

Thank you very much! Indeed the panels were collapsed. I've looked in other to me more logical places for it Anyways after spending the day with demoing it I decided to not jump on the train. Though it still is in beta there's too much that makes uncomfortable to work with it. Besides the bugs it's not very obvious where to find certain stuff or what certain symbols mean and how to setup things. If there is room for improvement, then definitely there.

And given that Bigtwig 3 now has the grid which handles all this stuff more easy (visually and from its settings) I guess this is the way to go.

[mevla]

And given that Bitwig 3 now has the grid which handles all this stuff more easy (visually and from its settings) I guess this is the way to go.

I use Bitwig and although I'm not subscribing to updates at the moment, it is likely that I will get version 3 (or 3.1 ...). The Bitwig Grid I find so far, is like a synth and .. another synth. It looks like quite something although I wouldn't substitute it for MSF, as I would not substitute say, Blue2 for Sytrus. To each its own. So far I'm not using Bitwig synths. I tried them here and there and they did not provide any 'hooks' on me, as a user creating music using mostly (modified) presets, as other synths did. It might be due to circumstances, I don't know. I use the Bitwig sampler more than the Bitwig synths.

[JunSev]

… And I couldn't find something simple like an arpeggiator. I knew from MPowerSynth that they're good in hiding it somewhere in a row, but I couldn't manage discover it this time. How many pop ups do I have to open to see it?
…

The arp switch is in the GUI's lower right corner, under "MIDI", on the "Toolbar", which is not a pop up, but might be closed, in which case it'd be the right-most vertical button… When open, the Toolbar's the one with the A-H rectangles and the Limiter at the top.

Thank you very much! Indeed the panels were collapsed. I've looked in other to me more logical places for it Anyways after spending the day with demoing it I decided to not jump on the train. Though it still is in beta there's too much that makes uncomfortable to work with it. Besides the bugs it's not very obvious where to find certain stuff or what certain symbols mean and how to setup things. If there is room for improvement, then definitely there.

And given that Bigtwig 3 now has the grid which handles all this stuff more easy (visually and from its settings) I guess this is the way to go.

Msoundfactory will receive unlimited free updates for life and the set of features, effects, generators is huge, so despite that it has perhaps an "unconventional" method to do things, it is a great deal, more you use it, more easier and familiar you get with it.

[deejay2]

there is no video which will tell me what is it i am actually buying....

any presets there...or do i need to have all other melda plugins to be this tool any usefull?

[exponent1]

there is no video which will tell me what is it i am actually buying....

any presets there...or do i need to have all other melda plugins to be this tool any usefull?

Why don't you demo it? There are some videos on YouTube by Melda as well as Chandlerguitar which give you some idea as to "what it is you're actually buying".

And no, you don't need to have any other Melda plugins in order to use all the MSF functionality. You will need to download (free download) the MDrummer packages to use those modules.