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[David]

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Except if you can't use the software in practical application what good is it?

I'm confused. You mean you can't play music or design sounds you like without MultiBand FX? How do you currently apply MB FX to all your other instruments?

What happened to "It's freaking off the charts amazing."?

[RobinWood]

Am about to download it right now but servers are slow. I'd still like to say 2 things: yes it is in beta and it probably will be for an unforseeable time because there will come a lot of stuff, right? Still you can pay for it and as we've learned, you always pay for stuff as it is now and not what it might become later ^^ 2nd thing: how it is now is the result of decisions made in the last 6 months or so with many people involved in the closed beta. It *is* in a state where such decisions can be criticized and it is not expected to fundamentally change. Now testing it

[exponent1]

Which means it's not going to be fixed.

What a f*****g mess.

All that development and you call that a mess ? OK, drama is needed to make good pop tunes, but that's a bit displaced regarding the amount of SW development that went into this so far.

Wags being wags. Just ignore and live peacefully

[David]

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Every fx that has a Multi-Mode. For example MDistortionMB, try one of the Multi-mode presets if you wanna hear an extreme example.
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Maybe I'm just tin-eared, but I didn't hear any latency with this FX, set to 6 bands…

[mevla]

Except if you can't use the software in practical application what good is it?

Can't you ?

[Whywhy]

About audio fx latency, Falcon and Avenger have latency not reported too.( perhaps, they have fix it since the last year, idk).
About fx section in Msf, you are right, it's not reported to the host, but you can do it manually.
From what I know, the generator fx per voices don't add any latency, perhaps the limiter, and all this fx per voices makes Msf so unique.
The fx section is just a bonus for me, but it doesn't represent the core of the system.

[SoundPorn]

What I read what he said the latency is caused because of some of the effects which operate in the spectral domain.
Latency is a very broad term as even zero latency plugins, in reality, have some latency. So how much latency are you guys talking about that you notice?
There is no perfect vst and with the amount of power you can wield with MSF there are obviously going to be some sacrifices. Fortune favors the bold. Best of all this doesn't cost a fortune like it probably should at the moment.
This free plugin won't fix the latency? https://www.voxengo.com/product/latencydelay/

[vurt]

This free plugin won't fix the latency? https://www.voxengo.com/product/latencydelay/

i think iirc that's designed to go on things that don't have latency, so as to keep them in time with the things that do.
i could be wrong though, although a plugin post latency plugin to remove latency sounds like time travel

[Soundplex]

The question is why do "fx" like unisono introduce latency at all. It's such a basic functionality in almost every synth. And why it is impossible to report it to the host such that it can be compensated. Why does this have to be another responsibility on the shoulders of the musicians, not like usual handled by the plugin or the host?

[Whywhy]

Unison into the generator section doesn't add latency , it's unison module, into the fx section, who add latency , it's a spectral fx.

[Sampleconstruct]

MUnison is a spectral effect, the higher the sample buffer resolution (to be found in spectral settings) the higher the latency.

[Soundplex]

But that's great. That means the latency is 100% known and a total is easy calculatable for the plugin. So the decision to not report or compensate it was not made because of technical reasons but because of *insert something here*.

[wagtunes]

For the f**king life of me I can't believe people are getting on my case over this. Pressing a key and having your sound come on immediately without latency is a basic functionality of any DECENT plugin. With the hundreds of plugins I own, outside of a few Waves ones, which by the way have live versions of them that eliminate the latency, there is not ONE where if I press a key down I have to wait for the sound to come out the other end.

If MSF, with certain FX enabled, can't do this basic thing, what good is it?

And for those asking me how I made music with MB before, I don't own any of their MB plugins, or, have never used them.

These are the only plugins I use by Melda

MPowerSynth
MUnison (for vocals)
MTurboDelay
MTurboReverb

None of them give me any latency problems AT ALL.

So no, this isn't Wags being Wags. This is Wags wondering how the f**k somebody can release something with such a HORRIBLE design flaw.

Sure, I can use MSF without those certain FX and avoid latency. Not the point. If you're going to include something in your product, supposedly, you're including it so that people can actually USE IT.

If they can't, what good is it?

There is nothing unreasonable about my feeling this way, especially since I am sure there are others who feel just as I do.

In short, this is ridiculous.

[vurt]

But that's great. That means the latency is 100% known and a total is easy calculatable for the plugin. So the decision to not report or compensate it was not made because of technical reasons but because of *insert something here*.

because its something that cant be avoided no matter what?
for a spectral effect of any kind to work there is going to be latency.

don't want the latency? don't use the spectral bits :yay:

[Soundplex]

But that's great. That means the latency is 100% known and a total is easy calculatable for the plugin. So the decision to not report or compensate it was not made because of technical reasons but because of *insert something here*.

because its something that cant be avoided no matter what?
for a spectral effect of any kind to work there is going to be latency.

don't want the latency? don't use the spectral bits :yay:

I don't have a problem with introduced latency, I have a problem with missing compensation like it is done with any other fx plugin or even synth.