FYI!! Melda SoundFactory ON SALE til JUNE 30

[JunSev]

Just look how some people only are trying to put everything in a negative way. Yes Msoundfactory has some issues, but the same could be said of almost all-around synths currently in the market. And if some people think that the latency issue is a "deal breaker" for Msoundfactory (thing that already has been said before is only caused for certain effects, not the core of the synth), almost all the all-around modular workstations synths has flaws or even worse limitations too.

At that price is great deal and the quality is just one of the best if not the best, huge collection of effects and synthesis methods, even if latency is a issue for some, Msoundfactory will possibly be the most advanced and capable synth ever created with the pass of the time, haters with suspicious behavior will not accept that and will try to put everything in a bad shade; and I'm not talking about the people that express the different issues and understand the constructive criticism, but about those that are only trying to put everything as a hopeless project without future, which MSF isn't of course.

[cron]

Is the upgrade path only available for MPowerSynth users? I own 7 paid effects and one NFR, and I'm only seeing upgrade paths to effects bundles in my account. 99 euros is still super generous for what you get, so I won't be complaining if it's a yes.

[David]

Except I can't find the "Default" preset.

So, I guess you don't watch videos?

[David]

Is the upgrade path only available for MPowerSynth users? I own 7 paid effects and one NFR, and I'm only seeing upgrade paths to effects bundles in my account. 99 euros is still super generous for what you get, so I won't be complaining if it's a yes.

Log in and put it in your cart to see how many "credits" you've got.

[David]

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Few questions for anyone who might know.
Is the online exchange for presets working during beta?

If we make a device/instrument (whatever you call it) and share it through the online presets will it load as a device or just a preset (like the MPS presets already there without the device screen)?
And if it will load as a device with the module screen, will the presets that we make within the specific device load after sending it through the online exchange?

This thing is deep!

Just tried the Download Presets button (it's in the Global Presets browser, open with the top-most Presets button on the main window), and found there's 4 files there already (they auto download when you click). 3 open with EX-Screens and the Edit mode button is GONE. So, presumably the builders of these 3 chose NOT to click on "Editable" in the Save device menu… Too bad, I hope that doesn't become the norm for "sharing", but, well, free will, etc:) The fourth opens as a global preset, no device loads, no easy screen. I'll upload a device later with Editable checked; see what happens…

[Niowiad]

I also don't understand this obsession some people have with lining everything up perfectly that only makes things sound more digital and programmed.

Having a varying clear audible delay of a couple 2000 samples when using some simple design tool like distortion, unison or delay is something different ^^

As it was said, some "problematic" modules were not supposed to be there, they were included by user request. The synth just went public as a beta, I wouldn't be completely surprised if the problematic modules and some oversampling settings on effects end up being removed in the final release to make it foolproof.

I'm not sure. How are you getting thousands of samples of latency?
I'm actually using the MB distortion without latency, and delay without latency (and when I say "without latency" I'm not just going by ear but I compared and measured the waveforms).
Unison(fx) is part of those modules not supposed to be included and to be fair there are ways to create massive unison at "generator level" without latency and there's Chorus without latency as an effect.

MUnison and other latency-inducing effects are a great tool to enhance and improve uninteresting sounds as insert fx. With MSF If someone is getting uninteresting sounds out of the Generators before the Effect section, something's wrong :\

I doubt presets/instruments will be released with latency issues for preset-junkies, and if the expert-user is actually doing sound design, as soon as latency is heard (not that hard to spot by ear) it should be easy to find the root-cause and take a step back on those settings.

You're actually thinking (as you earlier wrote) MSF users are going to have to constantly and manually compensate for latency in order to use the synth? That's quite an extreme way to put it

[David]

God this thing is amazing! Once we can load multisamples it could possibly replace my need for Omnisphere..depending on the presets.
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Yeah, it sorta gives me goosebumps anticipating the sampling devices to come:)

But, hey… "Replace Omnisphere"…?

Seriously, I know everybody at KVR says stuff like that, and many ask questions like that about new stuff…but does everybody so hate the synths they've already got that they look at every new thing as a "replacement"?

Sure, housekeeping in load-synth DAW menus is…personal, like for houses.

Personally, I like a big house full of toys:) And any new plugin I get, I ask myself "I wonder what's in here that'll sound great when I sample it into Omnisphere, or Kontakt, or Reaktor, or Absynth, or Icarus, etc., etc." about whatever's getting some love at the time.

I sometimes actually DO that, and have hit gold a time or two…

Yeah, I've get a little GAS now and then. But then I take the "Hey, I COLLECT!" pill and all's better:)

Just saying

[tylerdedera]

…
Few questions for anyone who might know.
Is the online exchange for presets working during beta?

If we make a device/instrument (whatever you call it) and share it through the online presets will it load as a device or just a preset (like the MPS presets already there without the device screen)?
And if it will load as a device with the module screen, will the presets that we make within the specific device load after sending it through the online exchange?

This thing is deep!

Just tried the Download Presets button (it's in the Global Presets browser, open with the top-most Presets button on the main window), and found there's 4 files there already (they auto download when you click). # open with EX-Screens and the Edit mode button is GONE. So, presumably the builders of these 3 chose NOT to click on "Editable" in the Save device menu… Too bad, I hope that doesn't become the norm for "sharing", but, well, free will, etc:) The fourth opens as a global preset, no device loads, no easy screen. I'll upload a device later with Editable checked; see what happens…

My apologies. I did the ABC Pads and the Bass Chops, if those are two of the four you downloaded. I now understand what that last feature list where you can check editable is about. Probably should have researched or asked before I uploaded them, was just to blown away and excited from working with MSF. I notice now that I am unable to edit them as well (the edit button up top is grayed out) at least now I know to check the editable tag when saving a module. Sorry for littering those on the online exchange, but I’m glad they showed up. Thank you for your help

[SoundPorn]

No Richard Divine presets that r usually too experimental to use in an actual song, and NO BUY. Period. On a serious note It'd be amazing to see what guys like Divine, Kevin Schroader, and Howard Scar could do with this synth.

[plexuss]

Curve2 and Synthmaster also have a user patch cloud feature. Rapid has multiple layers and many of the features of MSF. Zebra2 has the modular signal lanes. Just in case you wanted to explore some of synths with features MSF is derived from.

[tylerdedera]

God this thing is amazing! Once we can load multisamples it could possibly replace my need for Omnisphere..depending on the presets.
…

Yeah, it sorta gives me goosebumps anticipating the sampling devices to come:)

But, hey… "Replace Omnisphere"…?

Seriously, I know everybody at KVR says stuff like that, and many ask questions like that about new stuff…but does everybody so hate the synths they've already got that they look at every new thing as a "replacement"?

Sure, housekeeping in load-synth DAW menus is…personal, like for houses.

Personally, I like a big house full of toys:) And any new plugin I get, I ask myself "I wonder what's in here that'll sound great when I sample it into Omnisphere, or Kontakt, or Reaktor, or Absynth, or Icarus, etc., etc." about whatever's getting some love at the time.

I sometimes actually DO that, and have hit gold a time or two…

Yeah, I've get a little GAS now and then. But then I take the "Hey, I COLLECT!" pill and all's better:)

Just saying

Haha, yeah I have no real plans of removing Omnisphere from my computer, but as a go to, MSF has better & more FX and Omnisphere can’t do multisamples.
I remember thinking I would sell my addictive drums when I got mdrummer, but the shorthand and familiarity I’ve developed with most of my plugins is why they’re still on my computer.

[mike_the_ranger]

Gotta be honest. This is not going to be a Kontakt, Zebra or Omnisphere killer as praised in some melda threads.

[fmr]

In certain areas the plugin is really not deigned for audio rate modulation
Modulating the filter with an lfo @20 khz nearly destroyed my ears
Horrible

@20 kHz, it will no longer be an LFO (LFO stand for LOW FREQUENCY oscillator). If you routed an oscillator with a frequency of 20 kHz, what you were in fact doing was frequency modulating the filter. Depending on the intensity (volume) of the modulating oscillator, that could, in fact, produce horrible distortion.

[David]

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Haha, yeah I have no real plans of removing Omnisphere from my computer, but as a go to, MSF has better & more FX and Omnisphere can’t do multisamples.
I remember thinking I would sell my addictive drums when I got mdrummer, but the shorthand and familiarity I’ve developed with most of my plugins is why they’re still on my computer.

Ditto!

But actually, there IS a lot of deadwood in my AU and VST folders…meaning stuff I just never open any more, or ever DID open! (Computer Music freebies, etc. etc.)

SOME-day maybe a cleanup will be a more interesting project than just using all those favs… Hasn't happened yet:)

[SoundPorn]

Well Kontakt is a sampler designed to play commercial libraries. Omnisphere is nearly 100GB big, which to be honest is somewhat ridiculous considering it's mostly only used for woozy pads, bells and soundscapes. And Hive 2 is about to kill Zebra.

I would only really compare MSF to Falcon and Halion and to a lesser extent Fathom.

Gotta be honest. This is not going to be a Kontakt, Zebra or Omnisphere killer as praised in some melda threads.