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Thanks! Problem is: I didnt get a password.
The system seems weired anyway with different credentials for shop, mysteinberg, crossgrade and whatnot ..

I have sent asknet another email. I would hate to lose my crossgrade because of unresponsiveness on their side!
W23 wrote: Thu May 16, 2019 11:23 pm You have to use your email and password that Steinberg sent you when you applied for a crossgrade price. The link they send you to continue forward has a log in spot. It’s not very straightforward, but I futzed around with it for a couple of minutes and got to the application page where I left off. Alternatively, there’s 3rd party vendors who can speed up the approval process a little, but may take a couple of days to get you a license number.

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I got my stupid dongle today, now I just have to wait 5-6 hours for the download to finish. Loads of fun. So far I have to say I am less than impressed. Nothing is straightforward or obvious, everything requires that you go and find a help topic somewhere. If I compare it to my first experience with NI, which was only just over a year ago, NI have it all over these guys. You install Native Access and everything is laid out for you. It is the very definition of easy.

Steinberg's way is anything but. I have to download and install the software eLicenser so that my USB eLicenser can be registered with Steinberg, then I download what I assume will be a download manager but when it starts to install it recommends a different download manager, because they obviously think theirs is shit, which it may or may not have also installed (I can't find it). Then, instead of breaking the downloads into manageable packets, it's one giant 21GB bundle. Dog knows how many times it is likely to fail before I get it all down. I could end up using half my monthly bandwidth.

Not a great first impression.
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To spread some more negativity ;), i checked Artist 10 a bit more out yesterday, and, frankly, i remembered why i favored Studio One. It's all a bit more simple, elegant, and straight forward. One example would be the thing mentioned earlier in this thread: You want to change the audio device, and think that it has to be in the general options, while it's in a totally different menu, under "Studio options". Ok, what's the studio? Nothing on the GUI refers to a studio, or something similar. Try to set up your MIDI keyboard, and want to assign the knobs? Ok, use MIDI learn in the plugins. What if the plugin doesn't support MIDI learn though (as is the case with Waldorf Largo and Novation V-Station, for example)? Cool, you have 3 or more options then... use the Quick Controls, which are easily set up (unless you miss the options, which are, again, in the Studio options...), but, meh... only 8 knobs are assignable, and you have to switch between knob assignments with a switch on the GUI. Or... you use the Remote Control editor, after you set up a generic controller, which is quite a PITA, by the way. I figured it out once, but, couldn't remember how to do it, and, the learn knob basically did nothing for me. To be honest, i think i forgot the third option, but, i'm sure there was one.

And, as i mentioned before, the collapsible menus in the track inspector are a serious design flaw. They either should all be collapsible at the same time, or not at all. That's at least one click too much required every time. Also, the menus really need some icons, there are so many menu items that you're really having a hard time finding through those. Reminded me a bit of Reaper, TBH.

Anyway, that's just my opinion, which can be disagreed with, of course, but, there's quite a few obstacles for me in terms of workflow. It just feels a bit.. dated, all in all. They really improved the instrument and effect adding, with the drag and drop system, and, it's also great that you can have a one window setup with sequencer view, inspector, mixer or edit view, and the instrument "bay" on the right, but... they can't adress all construction areas at once, i guess. And, TBH, when i take a look at how many things they actually carried over from Studio One, i can't help but think that they know themselves that there are a couple of things which are not ideal.

Anyway, that really sounded more negative than i wanted to be now really. It's, of course, still a nice DAW for me. It's just that Studio One, for me, feels more fresh and refined, and makes more sense to me.

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chk071 wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 10:31 am

Anyway, that really sounded more negative than i wanted to be now really. It's, of course, still a nice DAW for me. It's just that Studio One, for me, feels more fresh and refined, and makes more sense to me.
I bought Cubase 10 partly because it has full integration with my Neltar Panorama p6 controller, and would you believe it but Studio One (which I also own) is getting full integration with a Nektar update next week apparently in the Studio One account, unless I have got it wrong.

Not much point to those who don't own a Nektar, but they say that it will be the best controller available for Studio One, so we shall see.

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dellboy wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 10:52 am
Not much point to those who don't own a Nektar, but they say that it will be the best controller available for Studio One, so we shall see.
I recently came across a video (I think it was from superbooth) with a guy from presonus and a guy from nektar. Both companies collaborated on this integration, so I guess it's gonna be very tight... didn't watch much as I neither have Studio One, nor that controller.

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If you don't use the features at which Cubase excels and prefer the traditional linear workflow, then Studio One is hard to beat. Plus it is usually incredibly cheap on the second hand market.
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Harry_HH wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 5:16 am
Musical Gym wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 10:41 pm Use code pa-cubase10 to get another 10% off Cubase 10 Elements, Artist, Pro and their crossgrade!
($149.40 for cross grade.)
https://pluginalley.com/product-categor ... rg/cubase/
After waiting a week their support reply, I finally got a message from Plugin Alley.
Now they claim, that the offer was only for the US customers. However, earler offer was shown in Europe, too, i.e. Plugin Alley either speaks bull, or/and treat their customers unequally. If they made a misstake, they should admit it.
It might be that Steinberg pulled the plug on that, only allowing them to sell in the Americas.. :shrug:

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toonertik wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 11:11 am
Harry_HH wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 5:16 am
Musical Gym wrote: Sun May 12, 2019 10:41 pm Use code pa-cubase10 to get another 10% off Cubase 10 Elements, Artist, Pro and their crossgrade!
($149.40 for cross grade.)
https://pluginalley.com/product-categor ... rg/cubase/
After waiting a week their support reply, I finally got a message from Plugin Alley.
Now they claim, that the offer was only for the US customers. However, earler offer was shown in Europe, too, i.e. Plugin Alley either speaks bull, or/and treat their customers unequally. If they made a misstake, they should admit it.
It might be that Steinberg pulled the plug on that, only allowing them to sell in the Americas.. :shrug:
That’s what I think, too. But the Plugin Alliance should be transparent, and admit/inform of that. Customer is their main stakeholder, not the developer/supplier
This seems to be hard to understand for many
companies.

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Nine days after the purchase (and immediate proof of eligibility) they still did not deliver, so I cancelled the purchase now.

Adiós Steinberg, I can't say it was fun attempting to deal with you but thanks for showing who you are soon enough to give me the opportunity to run away from you as fast as I can.

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dellboy wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 10:52 am
chk071 wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 10:31 am

Anyway, that really sounded more negative than i wanted to be now really. It's, of course, still a nice DAW for me. It's just that Studio One, for me, feels more fresh and refined, and makes more sense to me.
I bought Cubase 10 partly because it has full integration with my Neltar Panorama p6 controller, and would you believe it but Studio One (which I also own) is getting full integration with a Nektar update next week apparently in the Studio One account, unless I have got it wrong.

Not much point to those who don't own a Nektar, but they say that it will be the best controller available for Studio One, so we shall see.
Interesting. I had a mail from Presonus 2 days ago, which announced something "special" on the 21st of May. I don't know if it has something to do with it. Maybe Studio One gets a update as well.

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jens wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 12:02 pm Nine days after the purchase (and immediate proof of eligibility) they still did not deliver, so I cancelled the purchase now.

Adiós Steinberg, I can't say it was fun attempting to deal with you but thanks for showing who you are soon enough to give me the opportunity to run away from you as fast as I can.
Steinberg's site makes you verify eligibility BEFORE it allows you to purchase...

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In reference to the Steinberg setup stuff, here's a post I made a year ago:

"When I tried Padshop pro, I decided I won't be buying any Steinberg products - it was paramount to some half-baked install routine on Windows 95 but with far worse consequences - a real mess of an install.

If the install is crap I lose all interest in using it - install packages have been streamlined and standardized for a long long time - a dev studio really has to go out of their way to make it garbage."


So when I trialed elements a couple weeks ago and it went smoothly, a small sigh of relief escaped my lips. I'm not expecting Pro 10 to be quite as simple, but I'll be fine with it since the GUI itself is at a level I expect, and where we'll spend 99% of our time.

Want frustration to constantly interrupt your creative juices? Try being damn near forced to use Reason's file browser for any period of time, just to mention just one glaring aspect of poor GUI 101. And it's not something you can just 'get used to', its frigging terrible in every way. It's also a constant reminder that there's far worse things than a crappy install routine.
Have you tried Vital?

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jens wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 12:02 pm Nine days after the purchase (and immediate proof of eligibility) they still did not deliver, so I cancelled the purchase now.

Adiós Steinberg, I can't say it was fun attempting to deal with you but thanks for showing who you are soon enough to give me the opportunity to run away from you as fast as I can.

Did you buy directly from the Steinberg website ?

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rlared wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 12:12 pm
jens wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 12:02 pm Nine days after the purchase (and immediate proof of eligibility) they still did not deliver, so I cancelled the purchase now.

Adiós Steinberg, I can't say it was fun attempting to deal with you but thanks for showing who you are soon enough to give me the opportunity to run away from you as fast as I can.
Steinberg's site makes you verify eligibility BEFORE it allows you to purchase...
What could your point possibly be here?

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dellboy wrote: Fri May 17, 2019 12:26 pm
Did you buy directly from the Steinberg website ?
Of course not. Best Service, as I had been mentioning before here.

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