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[gentleclockdivider]

Just for pitch shifting , and since it's in the feedback loop the pitch keeps rising
It's just an experiment ..it does sound o.k. but nowhere as good as vallhalla delay in pitch mode , that plugin is just pure awesomness

And I could say the same about products very specific about its function. For instance, I have HY-delay4 and arguable I will not find a delay in a synth with such set of possibilities and expression with all it can do; the same I could say about all Hyakken sequencers and arpeggio, perhaps I will never find arpeggio or sequencer with such dynamic and editing possibility never in a synth. And with all of that said, part of my favorite synths being Icarus, Msoundfactory and Sytrus, they are very good enough doing the job for me even when they can't compete at least in all areas against an especific instrument with determined task.

And I'm really only responding you because I don't trust your intention are good or that you really like MSF, it really seems you need to find something to say negatively about the synth and your attitude in the melda forum is not like someone that like it or with good intentionality.

Here you said that for analog emulation look elsewhere, that the synth sounds thin and cold = the synth doesn't have that fat sound we could find elsewhere. Just because doesn't please you with a feature and you start comparing others suggesting that any of them sound more analog because it has the feature you want... when there is no synth that has all feature or can do everything, not even the all around all of them, we always might want something is not there, but they do the job and we can enjoy it as we like how it works. MSF is in Beta, a work in progress and more features will be added absolutely for free lifetime updates, that's how generous is.

I mean understand, maybe you will never like the synth it doesn't matter what the developer adds, if you think that the others are better for your particular feature just go for it.

Yes , I have far better synths and I've been building in reaktor for over 10 years , my own modalbank synth in reaktor has more features then MSF modalbank , has a mouse sweep area for instantly adjusting the partials .

Has indiviual damping per partial etc...I could go on an on ..
Am I not allowed to say this because I hurt your feelings ??
I have stated from the beginning that imho the strongest points of MSF are it's oscilllators and modularity + effects
It's a fine piece of software ,
With all that being said , I try to post as many bugs as I can ( when it's a bug ) and hope that it will have some great sounding analogue filters in the future .
It's also my impression that the hard liner fanboys don't know the difference between a weak sounding filter and a great one .
Buckle up , the world isn't populated by unicorns

[mevla]

J - You've really gone to far with your paranoid conspiracy insinuations. Despite all reactions you're clearly totally unable to understand just how provocative you are.

Anyone is in their full right to say whatever they like about any product without being a target of your baseless accusations.

And you go on quoting J extensively.

Let's quote your first remark here. You wrote something on Sun May 12, 2019 10:18 am :

Nice try Melda.
But...sorry I'm not in for this gimmick either...I'm a musician.

Moves on with life...

And that was the whole comment.

Now, mister Spiritual Machinery, this ain't whatever about a product. It's actually pretty close to the bottom of the barrel on the human scale. And then you do not like when people react. Say something akin to a neighbour just to see. Not a neighbour over which you feel confident you can insult, that's way too easy, but rather one that can reply to you easily using the same tone, and even "better". You wouldn't. Go to a no-go zone in Sweden and start saying things with the same tone to people. You wouldn't.

But here, you get "offended" when people react. Pfffft.

[wagtunes]

J - You've really gone to far with your paranoid conspiracy insinuations. Despite all reactions you're clearly totally unable to understand just how provocative you are.

Anyone is in their full right to say whatever they like about any product without being a target of your baseless accusations.

And you go on quoting J extensively.

Let's quote your first remark here. You wrote something on Sun May 12, 2019 10:18 am :

"Nice try Melda.
But...sorry I'm not in for this gimmick either...I'm a musician. "

And that was the whole comment.

Now, mister Spiritual Machinery, this ain't whatever about a product. It's actually pretty close to the bottom of the barrel on the human scale. And then you do not like when people react. Say something akin to a neighbour just to see. Not a neighbour over which you feel confident you can insult, that's way too easy, but rather one that can reply to you easily using the same tone, and even "better". You wouldn't. Go to a no-go zone in Sweden and start saying things with the same tone to people. You wouldn't.

But here, you get "offended" when people react. Pfffft.

There is enough blame to go around here for certain. But the cold hard truth about KVR is that you CANT say bad things about somebody's child. Everybody here takes everything personally, even if it's constructive criticism. Please don't tell me I'm wrong because I've been dealing with this shit for 5 years now.

MSF is a great synth. Probably one of the most powerful I've seen yet. There is very little it can't do. I bought it. I use it. I'm making a library for it.

But it is one of the LEAST intuitive interfaces I have ever seen in a synth. The UI makes me want to tear my hair out of my head. I'd rather have root canal than have to work with this thing.

I'm sorry if that offends you and all the other people in this forum. But MSF is NOT perfect. And until Melda acknowledges that their UI is poor in relation to just about every other UI out there, the bashing isn't going to stop.

Now, in their defense, they did make a slight improvement to the modulation UI so I hold out hope for the future.

[mevla]

With all that being said , I try to post as many bugs as I can ( when it's a bug ) and hope that it will have some great sounding analogue filters in the future .

And if not, then you have all your great synths, isn't it ?

And if not, with all your great synths, you will make great music.

And one day you will share that music with everybody else ?

Will you ?

It's also my impression that the hard liner fanboys don't know the difference between a weak sounding filter and a great one . Buckle up , the world isn't populated by unicorns

I'm rather new to this kind of exchange as the only other one was when people started bashing Linux over Zebra2 (which is available for Linux). I then started to discover, in an anthropological manner so to speak, how people can be. In this vein, I tend to consider that the term or rather, the label, 'fanboy' - sometimes spelled 'fanboi' - is used by people who are not very clean in the way they express their opinions. By "not very clean" I mean in part "not very objective". They kind of sense that what they do is not right, so they put up that label.

LIke putting your fence a bit on the neighbours' lot, then having the neighbour shouting at you and then calling the police to complain. It's a bit akin to this behaviour, it's in the same family.
It's a common behaviour mind you, but seems to be one that's much easier to sum up behind a keyboard.

[sfd]

@mevla - You are free to think, feel or dislike anything I or anyone else say.

But that is neither a ground nor an excuse for slender.

[JunSev]

J - You've really gone to far with your paranoid conspiracy insinuations. Despite all reactions you're clearly totally unable to understand just how provocative you are.

Anyone is in their full right to say whatever they like about any product without being a target of your baseless accusations.

And you go on quoting J extensively.

Let's quote your first remark here. You wrote something on Sun May 12, 2019 10:18 am :

"Nice try Melda.
But...sorry I'm not in for this gimmick either...I'm a musician. "

And that was the whole comment.

Now, mister Spiritual Machinery, this ain't whatever about a product. It's actually pretty close to the bottom of the barrel on the human scale. And then you do not like when people react. Say something akin to a neighbour just to see. Not a neighbour over which you feel confident you can insult, that's way too easy, but rather one that can reply to you easily using the same tone, and even "better". You wouldn't. Go to a no-go zone in Sweden and start saying things with the same tone to people. You wouldn't.

But here, you get "offended" when people react. Pfffft.

There is enough blame to go around here for certain. But the cold hard truth about KVR is that you CANT say bad things about somebody's child. Everybody here takes everything personally, even if it's constructive criticism. Please don't tell me I'm wrong because I've been dealing with this shit for 5 years now.

MSF is a great synth. Probably one of the most powerful I've seen yet. There is very little it can't do. I bought it. I use it. I'm making a library for it.

But it is one of the LEAST intuitive interfaces I have ever seen in a synth. The UI makes me want to tear my hair out of my head. I'd rather have root canal than have to work with this thing.

I'm sorry if that offends you and all the other cupcakes in this forum. But MSF is NOT perfect. And until Melda acknowledges that their UI is poor in relation to just about every other UI out there, the bashing isn't going to stop.

Now, in their defense, they did make a slight improvement to the modulation UI so I hold out hope for the future.

You can say whatever you want, the problem with you is that you love drama wags, and you exaggerate things; the developer has been committed to make improvements with this last release (mainly trying to improve the user interface) yet people with misbehavior prefer to insult and say the gui is so ugly they can't use it, but you see people here that don't think the same, included myself. I don't care how many options and pop ups has, I like Msoundfactory and I changed the skin and colors when I want something different, you and everyone can see Melda has been doing his best making his synths customizable. You are not right in your statement and you are not being considered about his works.

Some people here could just leave the thread if they don't like the synth already, but no, "I have to repeat the same thing and suggest bad things about the developer, but I can't go and say to melda the problems i have with the skins of the plug-ins in his forum".

[frizzbee]

hahaha melda community in acton. pure comedy gold. never ask again why people are set negatively towards melda or the fanboys... ...you are the best example guys.

[wagtunes]

I'm not right in my statement? How can an opinion be right OR wrong? Oh and please work on your English. "I am not being CONSIDERED about his works?" The word you meant to use is considerate.

As a consumer of Melda products (that's right, consumer, as in BOUGHT) I am allowed to give my opinion about any aspect of their products that I want and there isn't a damn thing that you or anybody else here can do about it.

How do you like THEM apples?

[gentleclockdivider]

With all that being said , I try to post as many bugs as I can ( when it's a bug ) and hope that it will have some great sounding analogue filters in the future .

And if not, then you have all your great synths, isn't it ?

And if not, with all your great synths, you will make great music.

And one day you will share that music with everybody else ?

Will you ?

It's also my impression that the hard liner fanboys don't know the difference between a weak sounding filter and a great one . Buckle up , the world isn't populated by unicorns

I'm rather new to this kind of exchange as the only other one was when people started bashing Linux over Zebra2 (which is available for Linux). I then started to discover, in an anthropological manner so to speak, how people can be. In this vein, I tend to consider that the term or rather, the label, 'fanboy' - sometimes spelled 'fanboi' - is used by people who are not very clean in the way they express their opinions. By "not very clean" I mean in part "not very objective". They kind of sense that what they do is not right, so they put up that label.

LIke putting your fence a bit on the neighbours' lot, then having the neighbour shouting at you and then calling the police to complain. It's a bit akin to this behaviour, it's in the same family.
It's a common behaviour mind you, but seems to be one that's much easier to sum up behind a keyboard.

Yes I have a soundcloud acount with songs on it , you wan't me top post it ?,
So you could use it as strawman argument when you don't like my music
You're intentions are so obvious
https://soundcloud.com/gentleclockdivider

[wagtunes]

hahaha melda community in acton. pure comedy gold. never ask again why people are set negatively towards melda or the fanboys... ...you are the best example guys.

You couldn't be more right. Sickening, isn't it?

[mevla]

There is enough blame to go around here for certain. But the cold hard truth about KVR is that you CANT say bad things about somebody's child. Everybody here takes everything personally, even if it's constructive criticism. Please don't tell me I'm wrong because I've been dealing with this shit for 5 years now.

Of course I can't tell you if you're wrong about this. This goes w/o saying. You do have much more experience and frankly, I don't think I will ever gain that much experience as this area is not a most fruitful one. However, it is interesting here and there, to witness those behaviour and optionally to actually comment/reflect on that. But then I wouldn't be doing that for long. Once in a long while is OK, for the interest.

This said, while fishing out the quote from sfd I saw that there are other threads involved the same persons, so I also do not know the background between those people interactions.

You know it reminds me of a Star Trek episode. Maybe you do recall also. It was about two opposite persons locked in fight in some kind of dimensional warp. I hope people do nto get locked in those things.

MSF is a great synth. Probably one of the most powerful I've seen yet. There is very little it can't do. I bought it. I use it. I'm making a library for it.

I also find it contains at this unfinished moment, a lot of creative potential. I'm dragged to it simply by coincidence since I own the Melda complete bundle. Otherwise I honestly feel I have enough synths to explore and create with. I went through a phase of buy-buy-buy and it's now over. I'm glad I got those synths and audio plugins but now I have to make something with those tools.

But it is one of the LEAST intuitive interfaces I have ever seen in a synth. The UI makes me want to tear my hair out of my head. I'd rather have root canal than have to work with this thing. I'm sorry if that offends you and all the other people in this forum. But MSF is NOT perfect. And until Melda acknowledges that their UI is poor in relation to just about every other UI out there, the bashing isn't going to stop.

See, why think that this offends me ? There's no need. As for the UI, I like the Melda UIs although I haven't used them fully nor studied them fully so far. For instance I'm not making full use of all the crossovers capabilities in the multiband plugins.

Now, in their defense, they did make a slight improvement to the modulation UI so I hold out hope for the future.

Well, you do know by now that this is in beta. And additionally it is stated on the product page that it will be a never-ending project (or something akin to that). This said, the Melda UI is a Melda UI.

As each synth has it's own character, each UI also has character.

[JunSev]

I'm not right in my statement? How can an opinion be right OR wrong? Oh and please work on your English. "I am not being CONSIDERED about his works?" The word you meant to use is considerate.

As a consumer of Melda products (that's right, consumer, as in BOUGHT) I am allowed to give my opinion about any aspect of their products that I want and there isn't a damn thing that you or anybody else here can do about it.

And you work with your drama problems...

With all respect.

[mevla]

Yes I have a soundcloud acount with songs on it , you wan't me top post it ?, So you could use it as strawman argument when you don't like my music You're intentions are so obvious
https://soundcloud.com/gentleclockdivider

Thanks for the link. Finally. Will listen later though. I already posted a piece I did in this thread.

This said, why are you feeling so fragile about your creations ? And why are you putting intentions into other people's minds ? And strangers at that. Don't you have the feeling that by doing so you're freewheeling and wasting energy in your thought process ? All that drama for nothing. You are trying to make it as uninviting as possible.

[wagtunes]

There is enough blame to go around here for certain. But the cold hard truth about KVR is that you CANT say bad things about somebody's child. Everybody here takes everything personally, even if it's constructive criticism. Please don't tell me I'm wrong because I've been dealing with this shit for 5 years now.

the Melda UI is a Melda UI.

And therein lies the whole problem. If you were to take a poll, I'd be willing to bet that a large percentage of the people polled would say the UI is poor. That is why Melda threads always turn into this.

As an owner of 125 VST synths (last count) I feel I am more than qualified to say that as UIs go, this is about the worst. Even Wolfgang Palm's aren't this bad and trust me, his are pretty bad. It took me forever to figure them out as is the case with probably almost everybody who uses his synths. But Melda beats him in unfriendliness by a country mile. There is no competition.

When that is the case, there is a serious problem.

Unfortunately, it's a problem Melda refuses to address.

Until they do, nothing is going to change in regard to people's reaction to their products.

[wagtunes]

I'm not right in my statement? How can an opinion be right OR wrong? Oh and please work on your English. "I am not being CONSIDERED about his works?" The word you meant to use is considerate.

As a consumer of Melda products (that's right, consumer, as in BOUGHT) I am allowed to give my opinion about any aspect of their products that I want and there isn't a damn thing that you or anybody else here can do about it.

And you work with your drama problems...

With all respect.

The only drama is in YOUR head. I made a valid criticism regarding Melda's products. That you can't handle it is YOUR problem my friend, not mine.