Kazrog True Iron
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5678 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
mix n match till it sounds good
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an-electric-heart an-electric-heart https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=182734
- KVRAF
- 2505 posts since 13 Jun, 2008 from Napier,New Zealand
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- KVRAF
- 4711 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
Yeah I think you'll be overcooking it. I know they market HG-2 as a mastering saturator but I think it's far more suited to instruments - it's not subtle in my opinion.
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- KVRAF
- 2625 posts since 2 Jun, 2016
Good company, good plugin.
Sounds good.
Price is good.
Good news.
Sounds good.
Price is good.
Good news.
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Arrested Developer Arrested Developer https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=278287
- KVRian
- 677 posts since 8 Apr, 2012
HG-2 can be very subtle, specially if you find the mix knob.
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- KVRist
- 201 posts since 14 May, 2008
In my opinion, True Iron sounds way better than HG-2.
Anyway, I guess using these two tools on your mixbus will most likely be too much.
True Iron can handle it all by itself. It's the ultimate "saturation mix glue" as far as I'm concerned.
- KVRian
- 736 posts since 29 Nov, 2015
What kind of setting do you find yourself going for in terms of strength and crush for the master bus glue? I find that on max strength it can still sound a bit subtle without a bit of crush added as well. I also find myself reaching for the output gain since the strength knob seems to add a bit of gain or perceived loudness.
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- KVRist
- 275 posts since 28 Jun, 2017
For electronic music at least, I'd never use True Iron on the mixbus, it adds way too much lowend density. Probably works better on acoustic kicks which can tolerate more beefing up before it gets swampy.
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- KVRian
- 678 posts since 15 Feb, 2012 from France
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- KVRAF
- 1511 posts since 26 Jun, 2005
+1 for the 111C on the Mixbus. It doesn´t saturate to much but adds soemthing nice to the Track.nilhartman wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 10:53 am 111C adds a very nice clarity and depth on the mixbus IMO. Quite found of v178 on synths.
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- KVRer
- 3 posts since 24 Dec, 2014 from London
So-called "analogue" software DSP fx plugins have come a long way over the years but still aren't quite there, especially in emulations of magnetic devices. It's significant that the wonderful Neve 542 Tape Emulator outboard unit excels by physically modelling a record head, using a custom-designed transformer.
I've just been testing the Kazrog True Iron plugin (v1.2.4) and I'm partly pleased but partly disappointed.
My analytical tests show that each transformer model produces its own particular level of a common profile of even-numbered harmonics, but the level of these harmonics is UNRESPONSIVE to input signal amplitude. Why? This is presumably the kind of software DSP short-cut that the White Sea Studios dude so often and so rightly complains about for plugins that claim to have an "analogue" sound - "IT HAS NO DEPTH!"
But all is not lost: each True Iron model also generates a profile of odd-numbered harmonics and the shape and level of this profile ARE responsive to input signal amplitude. Odd-numbered harmonics are essential non-linear products of practically all magnetic circuits in which the signal amplitude reaches the 'curly ends' of the hysteresis curve.
Moreover, all the True Iron models yield plenty of intermodulation distortion products (aka sidebands) when driven really hard, producing the much loved "exciter" effect.
Nice one Shane (though I'd love to know what that even harmonics business is about).
I've just been testing the Kazrog True Iron plugin (v1.2.4) and I'm partly pleased but partly disappointed.
My analytical tests show that each transformer model produces its own particular level of a common profile of even-numbered harmonics, but the level of these harmonics is UNRESPONSIVE to input signal amplitude. Why? This is presumably the kind of software DSP short-cut that the White Sea Studios dude so often and so rightly complains about for plugins that claim to have an "analogue" sound - "IT HAS NO DEPTH!"
But all is not lost: each True Iron model also generates a profile of odd-numbered harmonics and the shape and level of this profile ARE responsive to input signal amplitude. Odd-numbered harmonics are essential non-linear products of practically all magnetic circuits in which the signal amplitude reaches the 'curly ends' of the hysteresis curve.
Moreover, all the True Iron models yield plenty of intermodulation distortion products (aka sidebands) when driven really hard, producing the much loved "exciter" effect.
Nice one Shane (though I'd love to know what that even harmonics business is about).
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
It's actually pronounced Veet-zuh (Like pizza, but with a 'V' )an-electric-heart wrote: ↑Fri Feb 22, 2019 9:46 amYes, his name's Wytse pronounced white-sea... so yeah, hence the name "White Sea Studio".
- KVRAF
- 40243 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQhN6Nym89YAloysius wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 7:40 pm How To Pronounce wytse
http://www.howtopronounce.com/dutch/wytse/