FL Studio 5, when?
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- KVRist
- 47 posts since 10 Jul, 2002 from Iowa USA
It will be free since you get lifetime updates. Imageline has 3 different versions of FL (tiers) and they determine what features are included for free with each version (Express edition, Fruityloops edition, and Producer edition).Rhett wrote:Any idea what the cost will be to upgrade from 4 to 5?
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- KVRian
- 976 posts since 29 Aug, 2001 from Waynesboro, PA
Updates are free. Going from version 4.5 to 5 will be free.
Upgrade costs can vary based on the version you are using & the version you are going to (i.e. Upgrading Fruityloops Edition to Studio Edition currently costs 50 bucks).
Upgrade costs can vary based on the version you are using & the version you are going to (i.e. Upgrading Fruityloops Edition to Studio Edition currently costs 50 bucks).
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- KVRist
- 331 posts since 30 Mar, 2003
It's interesting how much confusion this causes.piranha XT wrote:Updates are free. Going from version 4.5 to 5 will be free.
Upgrade costs can vary based on the version you are using & the version you are going to (i.e. Upgrading Fruityloops Edition to Studio Edition currently costs 50 bucks).
Whatever version you are using (Express, Fruity, Producer), you will get that version updated.
Carb.
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- KVRian
- 1256 posts since 22 Aug, 2003
...that is, if you have bought or received life-time free updates.
One reason that it causes confusion is that Producer doesn't mean the highest version. In FL 5, Producer will probably be the 2nd-to-highest Tier, with some other version taking its place. Yes, it's a valid point that you will never actually LOSE features, but don't expect that buying the current top version will allow you access to the coolest new stuff (I hope it can be expected, but Image-Line has the right to withhold any new developments as they should see fit... I hope that the major important updates will not be caste-specific).
One reason that it causes confusion is that Producer doesn't mean the highest version. In FL 5, Producer will probably be the 2nd-to-highest Tier, with some other version taking its place. Yes, it's a valid point that you will never actually LOSE features, but don't expect that buying the current top version will allow you access to the coolest new stuff (I hope it can be expected, but Image-Line has the right to withhold any new developments as they should see fit... I hope that the major important updates will not be caste-specific).
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Jaeson Merrill Jaeson Merrill https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=29081
- KVRian
- 1185 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from nowhere you believe in
i think IL is more geared toward a "modular" approach. I dont forsee FL5 having a new "tier" so to speak.. Theres the vid player coming out, which is seperate.. perhaps a FL5 Video edition maybe, but more likely just an addon plugin.
for instance, video is something i would never use...
so im glad that i dont have to pay for it.
ASIO audio recording and mixer tracks were a HUGE upgrade, added features, really... thereby justifying the upgrade price to producer. It seperated the average loop-making device from the production suite, and opened the doors for further development in that realm.
I have no problem with it.. if there were features i wanted for FL5 that i had to pay for that werent already part of the program, then fine
for instance, video is something i would never use...
so im glad that i dont have to pay for it.
ASIO audio recording and mixer tracks were a HUGE upgrade, added features, really... thereby justifying the upgrade price to producer. It seperated the average loop-making device from the production suite, and opened the doors for further development in that realm.
I have no problem with it.. if there were features i wanted for FL5 that i had to pay for that werent already part of the program, then fine
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- KVRAF
- 1530 posts since 20 Feb, 2003
i think some people get far too hung up on this "lifetime free updates" thing. instead of "lifetime free updates" i think they really want "something for nothing" .
the policy is fair: the basic upgrade is free, some other nice bits cost extra.
better than native instruments which charges you for every little tweak & bug fix and abandons you if you decide to stay on an older version...
the policy is fair: the basic upgrade is free, some other nice bits cost extra.
better than native instruments which charges you for every little tweak & bug fix and abandons you if you decide to stay on an older version...
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- something special
- 8627 posts since 16 Mar, 2002 from Birmingham, Alabama
not entirely true.Cabinfever wrote: better than native instruments which charges you for every little tweak & bug fix and abandons you if you decide to stay on an older version...
major upgrade from reaktor 3 to reaktor 4 was free.
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Jaeson Merrill Jaeson Merrill https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=29081
- KVRian
- 1185 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from nowhere you believe in
i think a better example is waves.. i think each version hardly adds anything new....
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- KVRAF
- 7872 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA
I actually think these free updates for life are a bad idea as far as making money for the company. I think most people would pay a small update fee each time it goes to version 5, 6, 7, etc. But too late nowCabinfever wrote:i think some people get far too hung up on this "lifetime free updates" thing. instead of "lifetime free updates" i think they really want "something for nothing" .
the policy is fair: the basic upgrade is free, some other nice bits cost extra.
better than native instruments which charges you for every little tweak & bug fix and abandons you if you decide to stay on an older version...
my music: http://www.alexcooperusa.com
"It's hard to be humble, when you're as great as I am." Muhammad Ali
"It's hard to be humble, when you're as great as I am." Muhammad Ali
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- KVRist
- 80 posts since 4 Jan, 2004 from Minneapolis,Mn
it's never too late,how many people would actually stop using FL if they didn't get free updates? = NONEATS wrote:I actually think these free updates for life are a bad idea as far as making money for the company. I think most people would pay a small update fee each time it goes to version 5, 6, 7, etc. But too late nowCabinfever wrote:i think some people get far too hung up on this "lifetime free updates" thing. instead of "lifetime free updates" i think they really want "something for nothing" .
the policy is fair: the basic upgrade is free, some other nice bits cost extra.
better than native instruments which charges you for every little tweak & bug fix and abandons you if you decide to stay on an older version...
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- KVRAF
- 7872 posts since 21 Dec, 2002 from MD USA
what are you talking about? It's too late because they already promised free updates.dexters lab wrote:it's never too late,how many people would actually stop using FL if they didn't get free updates? = NONEATS wrote:I actually think these free updates for life are a bad idea as far as making money for the company. I think most people would pay a small update fee each time it goes to version 5, 6, 7, etc. But too late nowCabinfever wrote:i think some people get far too hung up on this "lifetime free updates" thing. instead of "lifetime free updates" i think they really want "something for nothing" .
the policy is fair: the basic upgrade is free, some other nice bits cost extra.
better than native instruments which charges you for every little tweak & bug fix and abandons you if you decide to stay on an older version...
my music: http://www.alexcooperusa.com
"It's hard to be humble, when you're as great as I am." Muhammad Ali
"It's hard to be humble, when you're as great as I am." Muhammad Ali
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- KVRist
- 80 posts since 4 Jan, 2004 from Minneapolis,Mn
yeah and they could break that retarded promise very easily....
and depending on how far they are to go with FL studio i.e. cubase level then they should break it...
it would be the dumbest buisness move if they did not.
cry babys
and depending on how far they are to go with FL studio i.e. cubase level then they should break it...
it would be the dumbest buisness move if they did not.
cry babys
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
their business model is fine, and clearly isn't hurting them too bad.
FL updates are free saving them from building their business around trying to crank[1] out a new major version release every year whether it is needed or not.
Instead they can concentrate on improving the code at their own rate and build new revenue streams from side products, such as Sytrus.
[1] or maybe knarc
FL updates are free saving them from building their business around trying to crank[1] out a new major version release every year whether it is needed or not.
Instead they can concentrate on improving the code at their own rate and build new revenue streams from side products, such as Sytrus.
[1] or maybe knarc
Someone shot the food. Remember: don't shoot food!
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- KVRAF
- 1530 posts since 20 Feb, 2003
free basic upgrades are intrinsically good for everyone because it means less support.
if people are having a problem the first reply can be "are you using the latest version?". if people have to pay for upgrades then you'll have users spead over the version numbers and refusing to upgrade (but still demanding support for their version) because they don't want to spend any money.
the trick is to make sure your "pay for" extras are actually worth bothering about.
if people are having a problem the first reply can be "are you using the latest version?". if people have to pay for upgrades then you'll have users spead over the version numbers and refusing to upgrade (but still demanding support for their version) because they don't want to spend any money.
the trick is to make sure your "pay for" extras are actually worth bothering about.