KVR Audio

waveletaudio · Post by **waveletaudio** » Wed May 29, 2019 6:52 am

Hey guys! A couple of questions:

1) What e-mail address should I use if I'm interested in working together with NI? Seems like 3rd-party-developers@native-instruments.com does not work.

2) Can we specify which instrument we sampled? I mean, imagine, we recorded a strat guitar. Then we want to make a sample library using these samples. Should we pay any royalties to the manufacturer? Or not? Can we record the videos with this guitar for promotion? Write the guitar model in the description?

Stammwerk Audio · Post by **Stammwerk Audio** » Thu May 30, 2019 4:19 pm

Does the email bounce back? I do not think you will have to pay royalties to the manufacturer in that case esp. when you did some post-processing of these samples. Not 100% sure though.

Btw. feel free to check our website out, we're a new sound design company..maybe we can collaborate at some point

https://www.stammwerk-audio.com/

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:55 pm

You'd have to license the name, 'Fender Strat' because it's trademarked. My impression is yez just call it by another name: Pre-bass (probably can't even say P-Bass), Jay-Bass. Can't say Precision Bass, can't say Jazz Bass, trademarked. That much I know. I tend to doubt sampling a real instrument is licensed like that. But email someone who has.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:57 pm

IKMM pays to use actual names of things, and along with this model looks for an endorsement.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:03 pm

You can't even call them Pre-Bass or Jay-Bass because NI already has libraries with those names

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:14 pm

the universal 'yez' was implied

BertKoor · Post by **BertKoor** » Sun Jun 02, 2019 1:09 pm

You need solid legal advice, which you won't get here. No one ever at KVR admitted being a lawyer. The ones that are (there must be some) lawyers apparently are cowards as well. It's probably gonna cost you about a year's worth of your profits (or even revenues)

What are all other sample lib creators doing? It's probably safe to do the same...

Stratocaster is a trade mark. You don't want to infringe on trade marks, like put a product in a simular market with the same name.

Samples are audio recordings, which is a legal usage of musical instruments. You can state in the liner notes of an album what equipment is used. So I don't see a problem in describing what is sampled, or how it was done. Just don't put too much emphasis on it.

You don't see much concerts (if any) where they put duct tape on the guitar head to conceil who made the strat. Think about that.

P-bass & J-bass: this is getting silly. Those are surely not the trade-marked names. It's Precision & Jazz bass. Or has Fender produced a "Model J" or simular I have missed?

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:31 pm

Was that solid legal advice?

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:39 pm

im not buying pee bass

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:49 pm

Thomas Skarbye didn't call his Precision Bass library P-Bass, did he.

if you google "P-Bass" you get page after page of real Precision Bass by Fender
if you google "Pre-Bass" you get page after page of Scarbee Pre-Bass
Strat is merely an abbreviation of Stratocaster, so maybe you can call your library 'The Strat'.
(I wouldn't.)

I never said my aside was an actual trademark violation.

shidostrife · Post by **shidostrife** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:27 pm

I am under the impression that you absolutely cannot use THEIR trademarked name in YOUR product name. Regarding the description, some developers mention the actual instruments, e.g "sampled from a Fender Statocaster", and some use more vague terms, like "sampled from the most iconic guitar from a famous american guitar company", so it's more grey area, I guess?

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