KVR Audio

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:59 am

Its a cool synth, enjoyed demoing it- but way overpriced in my opinion. You need the FX - so the cost is 350 - that puts it at the same cost as UVI Falcon which as far as I can tell (I own Flacon) is far better in most ways that matter to me- 15+ Osc types, 80+ Fx, better modulation, everything unlimited, scripting GUI creation etc etc…

The snap in FX are pretty basic (compared to say Thorus and Sparkleverb etc inc in Falcon) and I cant see any use for them outside of the synth witout the multiband splitter (which is more money...)

So- good synth, sounds very good, like the simple modular concept but way too expensive compiared to say Avenger (haldf the cost) or Falcon (same cost but with a 100E voucher and in my opinion you gte a lot more for your money)

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:00 am

SLiC wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:59 am Its a cool synth, enjoyed demoing it- but way overpriced in my opinion. You need the FX - so the cost is 350 - that puts it at the same cost as UVI Falcon which as far as I can tell (I own Flacon) is far better in most ways that matter to me- 15+ Osc types, 80+ Fx, better modulation, everything unlimited, scripting GUI creation etc etc…

The snap in FX are pretty basic (compared to say Thorus and Sparkleverb etc inc in Falcon) and I cant see any use for them outside of the synth witout the multiband splitter (which is more money...)

So- good synth, sounds very good, like the simple modular concept but way too expensive compiared to say Avenger (haldf the cost) or Falcon (same cost but with a 100E voucher and in my opinion you gte a lot more for your money)

Gotta agree 100%

Teksonik · Post by **Teksonik** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:19 am

I already own KHS One. Here is the very "generous" upgrade offer I get........

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aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:21 am

haha it's like an iZotope upgrade offer

Breach The Sky · Post by **Breach The Sky** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 11:35 am

I have a feeling that they want as many people as possible to choose the subscription-model..

Whywhy · Post by **Whywhy** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:42 pm

SLiC wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:59 am Its a cool synth, enjoyed demoing it- but way overpriced in my opinion. You need the FX - so the cost is 350 - that puts it at the same cost as UVI Falcon which as far as I can tell (I own Flacon) is far better in most ways that matter to me- 15+ Osc types, 80+ Fx, better modulation, everything unlimited, scripting GUI creation etc etc…

The snap in FX are pretty basic (compared to say Thorus and Sparkleverb etc inc in Falcon) and I cant see any use for them outside of the synth witout the multiband splitter (which is more money...)

So- good synth, sounds very good, like the simple modular concept but way too expensive compiared to say Avenger (haldf the cost) or Falcon (same cost but with a 100E voucher and in my opinion you gte a lot more for your money)

+2 !
Subscription or not, the price stays the same.

sinemotor · Post by **sinemotor** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:57 pm

No you don't NEED all the FXs. I think the 199€ version is enough for most purposes and you can get really deep without even using FXs at all.

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 1:23 pm

sinemotor wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:57 pm No you don't NEED all the FXs. I think the 199€ version is enough for most purposes and you can get really deep without even using FXs at all.

I agree, for the $199 version you get 3-Band EQ, Chorus, Delay, Gain, Limiter, Stereo, Compressor, Distortion, Filter, Phaser, Reverb. Not bad.

If I need more than that I can add them in my DAW.

DavidCarlyon · Post by **DavidCarlyon** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:43 pm

It is a real shame there is no intro price. Would have snapped this up straight away. I don't know how much point there would be if i was only going to use it with my other Fx...the whole point of this synth is the workflow. Obv i would use other fx alongide it, but being able to build up the mian sound in the synth itself is a major thing.

They do subscription now?
I don't understand why more companies dont do rent to own - far superior and much more popular with people it seems. Would do that in a heartbeat too! might give in and demo it later, i have just held off in case i fall in love.

Has this one turned out to be extremely popular then? It is hard to guage how many people have bought this thing. It does seem to be creating a bit of a buzz though, which is good. nice to have people developing more complex systems.

fmr · Post by **fmr** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:13 pm

Yeah, a rent to own option would be a great thing. My favorite too.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:25 pm

sinemotor wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:57 pm No you don't NEED all the FXs. I think the 199€ version is enough for most purposes and you can get really deep without even using FXs at all.

Maybe so, but without the fx it isn't really an integrated modular approach and a lot of the GUI is wasted! 199E puts it against Avenger for me which has 8 oscillator types and 30 FX etc - I know its not all about 'quantity' but this is what you get with a synth costing the same: https://www.vengeance-sound.com/plugins.php so for me this is a synth that should be less than that with all of the fx bundled. It will probably do a 50% at some point, I will have another look then, I like the FM features, I like the synth, I don't like the cost of the plug in fx as an 'extra cost 'model'!

SoundPorn · Post by **SoundPorn** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:32 pm

So how much is MeldaMFoundFactory again just for comparison of competition?

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:11 pm

its 99E …..

https://www.meldaproduction.com/MSoundFactory

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:09 pm

SLiC wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:11 pm its 99E …..
https://www.meldaproduction.com/MSoundFactory

To be fair, regular price should be compared not sale vs regular prices. MSoundFactory is regularily €299 vs Phase Plant $349USD (€313 @ todays exchange rates), same with UVI Falcon $349US . At the moment MSF is on sale as mentioned for €99. Remember there will be a €60 license transfer fee on that if you decide to transfer in the future.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:45 pm

plexuss wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:09 pm
SLiC wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:11 pm its 99E …..
https://www.meldaproduction.com/MSoundFactory
To be fair, regular price should be compared not sale vs regular prices. MSoundFactory is regularily €299 vs Phase Plant $349USD (€313 @ todays exchange rates), same with UVI Falcon $349US . At the moment MSF is on sale as mentioned for €99. Remember there will be a €60 license transfer fee on that if you decide to transfer in the future.

Sure, but they are both ‘launch’ prices, and MSoundFactory is actually 89E after the 10E discount they give you for subscribing to their newsletter - plus you get ‘free updates for life’ (no need to buy more snap ins) and M update a lot! I’m not trying to diminish PP, as I said, I liked it a lot...the difference is I bought MSoundFactory 30 minutes after demoing as a no brainier

Phase Plant released