KVR Audio

MadDogE134 · Post by **MadDogE134** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:39 pm

right... imo there is no difference in boosting and cutting... it is a matter of taste and it is your taste that sells. most any monkey can be taught to turn knobs and follow a guideline.

but as for teaching kiddies how to do it wrong... go for it ... it gives old fart's (such as myself) job longevity lol (j/k)

p.s. my rule of thumb is... boost with analog and cut with digital.

SparkySpark · Post by **SparkySpark** » Thu May 02, 2019 5:22 pm

Lots of great info in this thread!

I must say I agree with Black Octopus: people are EQing way too much. The same applies to compression, resulting in quite lifeless and boring (read: radio friendly) mixes.

Much better to use little else but hi pass filtering and then some extra care on vocals.

If the music is too muddy: redo the arrangement instead! Extensive EQing and track compression should, in my opinion, be seen mostly as a last resort.

_al_ · Post by **_al_** » Fri May 03, 2019 5:20 pm

Stamped Records wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:42 pm Like, if I had a time machine, I'd tell the beginner me that there is usually one big cut if its necessary at all, to get the eq process going, if a track needs it, I will 9 times of 10, find a nice place to take a massive chunk out of the frequency range, while doing no harm whatsover to my percieved balance.

colonel_mustard · Post by **colonel_mustard** » Fri May 03, 2019 5:46 pm

Excellent thread, I have much to learn and there's a whole lot of good advice here. Thanks team.

Will pitch in and also suggest ear training. There must be plenty of options - I went with a cheap one, and I've been quite satisfied:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/heareq- ... 06542?mt=8

Eclectrophonic · Post by **Eclectrophonic** » Sat May 04, 2019 4:28 pm

Guenon wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 8:14 pm
Eclectrophonic wrote: Mon Apr 29, 2019 7:16 pmWhy would the peak level alter on that piano at the beginning from -1.6dB to -1.3dB when looped?
As it's a looping MIDI clip triggering an instrument instead of an audio loop, when ever it loops from the beginning there is also the instrument's tail of the last pass still sounding. The first hit also happens to be the loudest one (it sets the loudest peak, -1.6 dB, right away on the first pass), so when the phrase loops, there's 0.3 dB extra from the tail, adding up to -1.3 when looping over and playing that loudest first hit again.

Interesting, thanks.

Kithairon · Post by **Kithairon** » Sun May 26, 2019 10:54 am

Burillo · Post by **Burillo** » Sun May 26, 2019 11:32 am

the thing that made it "click" for me was the following: ratio is how much input it takes to raise the volume by a certain level. for example, at ratio 10:1 it takes 10dB of input signal to raise the output by 1dB. this is of course oversimplication (due to attack/release, knee, etc.), but this is the most basic fact about compression - after you understand that, everything else falls into place pretty easily.

btw, this "5 minute" video could've been condensed down to two minutes with edits and preparation. there's too much meandering going on in the video.

Kithairon · Post by **Kithairon** » Tue May 28, 2019 11:59 am

Kithairon · Post by **Kithairon** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 2:13 pm

sxop · Post by **sxop** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:49 pm

Hey Kithairon,

would like to say that I enjoy watching your vids more and more!
This one is quite "fluent" and not so interrupted with thinking pauses as in previous vids

The tips are a great starting point to make conscious decisions in the mixing process.
Never thought that the frequency of a sound locates it along the "height-axis", but makes sense to me now

sxop

mevla · Post by **mevla** » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:59 pm

Good video. The 3D approach is a 'sound' one. It's a good basis to eventually get a pleasurable mix, of any style. I'm not sure about this with mastering though. Because when the mix hits the mastering stage, all that should be done. At least for panning, volume and main lows/highs. At mastering it's more of global aspects like 'air', framing, taking care of the basses.

At the mixing stage the volume variations (as you've mentioned one of the 3D axis) can be largely handled by compressors. Compressors do not have to be obnoxious, they can be subtle and used to reflect more of a human activity from the sound of the instruments.

Cheers.

Kithairon · Post by **Kithairon** » Thu Jun 06, 2019 3:05 pm

Kithairon · Post by **Kithairon** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:59 pm

dark water · Post by **dark water** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:02 pm

Well I think the biggest mistake when creating threads is doing too little.
For example, just doing a flyby dump of a video.

If only I had a video to spam for hits as well...

Don't worry, I didn't watch your video.
It might be bad / good / mediocre but there's a shitload of them already out there by more reputable producers than you so why bother tbh?

Kinh · Post by **Kinh** » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:20 pm

dark water wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:02 pm Well I think the biggest mistake when creating threads is doing too little.
For example, just doing a flyby dump of a video.

If only I had a video to spam for hits as well...

Don't worry, I didn't watch your video.
It might be bad / good / mediocre but there's a shitload of them already out there by more reputable producers than you so why bother tbh?

why dont you just keep ya opinions to yourself mate. you're just ramblin' about bloody nuffin'

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