Logic Pro 11 will be releasing later this year ? ?, are we expecting any major upgrades 10.5 ?

[pbr985]

Logic anyone?

Very good point.

[george]

Logic anyone?

*ahem*



Regarding Logic, I'm fine producing 4-8 tracks with it but of course there are individuals or studios with very high requirements.

[jacqueslacouth]

My concern about the future of Logic is that, as a pro app, apple are going to develop it to take advantage of the power of the new Mac Pro, in turn rendering it less useable on machines like my 4 year old iMac (which was bought "new" from the Apple store 2 years ago!!!).

In the mean time I will sit tight, but considering the continued price gouging for Apple products, I suspect that my time as a Logic user is coming to an end in the near future, which, TBH, is a bit of a shame but I am not a slave to one DAW or one OS. Logic, Cubase, Studio One???? All are more than adequate. Windows or MacOs??? I really couldn't care...The OS simply supports the applications I run, I really don't interact with the OS.

[agharta]

My concern about the future of Logic is that, as a pro app, apple are going to develop it to take advantage of the power of the new Mac Pro, in turn rendering it less useable on machines like my 4 year old iMac.

I don't see that so much. First off because the price and form factor will make it fairly niche for DAW users. Secondly, I see it much more of a platform for video users. A top end workstation tends to just offer the ability to run more of the same rather than new features. Even if they added a few features that could only be run on a Mac Pro, you'd lose out on those moving away from Logic anyway so it seems an odd reason to depart.

[Cinebient]

The latest Logic runs still good on my 5 1/2 years old macbook pro and i doubt that will change with the next version.
Logic even runs on macbook air. The only different is how much you can handle due to cpu and ram.
I cannot run 2000 tracks but i‘m happy with up to 100

[el-bo (formerly ebow)]

The latest Logic runs still good on my 5 1/2 years old macbook pro

And on my 7-year-old MBP

[jacqueslacouth]

Even if they added a few features that could only be run on a Mac Pro, you'd lose out on those moving away from Logic anyway so it seems an odd reason to depart.

From my perspective, this would not be my reason for changing platforms. I am NEVER going to be a Mac Pro purchaser. Simply not justifiable for what I do. I have been using iMacs since 2006 and am finding the price to performance ratio has not been so good for me.

For the price of a pretty lowly spec'd iMac I can build a far superior Windows machine that will certainly run Ableton Live better than my current machine. It's not a matter of being able to afford either one or other, I am just very "Scottish"with my cash. For what I do, there is simply no justification for me to continue the cost of the Apple/Logic platform. I can achieve EVERYTHING that I currently do in Logic on other DAWs. That said, I have always enjoyed Logic and in recent years the free upgrades have made the software an exceptional purchase, value wise.

[jonljacobi]

For $1600 (actually less as I had the SSDs) total, I purchased and upgraded a 2015 iMac to a Core i7-6770K/32GB/1TB NVMe SSD. Given the 5K display, that would've cost as much or more using standard parts. Then the price of Logic being $200, about half that of most most equivalent DAWs... Not saying it's a bargain, but it's not nearly as unbalanced an equation if you go used.

Absolutely not arguing about the price of new Macs or the absurd upgrade pricing. As to the Mac Pro. If someone leaves one on my doorstep, sure. Otherwise, no. But I don't need a new version of Logic or 1000 tracks.

[pdxindy]

My concern about the future of Logic is that, as a pro app, apple are going to develop it to take advantage of the power of the new Mac Pro, in turn rendering it less useable on machines like my 4 year old iMac (which was bought "new" from the Apple store 2 years ago!!!).

In the mean time I will sit tight, but considering the continued price gouging for Apple products, I suspect that my time as a Logic user is coming to an end in the near future, which, TBH, is a bit of a shame but I am not a slave to one DAW or one OS. Logic, Cubase, Studio One???? All are more than adequate. Windows or MacOs??? I really couldn't care...The OS simply supports the applications I run, I really don't interact with the OS.

Your machine and any Logic updates will work fine together for some years to come...

[Passing Bye]

Think they will just optimize multi core support further, but sure there's always a chance new GUI, plugin, feature or bug could start eating up more and more over time, knowing Apple, they will pull that card at one point for sure, maybe if they start moving to another architecture and sell you the story of even faster performance there.

[Jace-BeOS]

My concern about the future of Logic is that, as a pro app, apple are going to develop it to take advantage of the power of the new Mac Pro, in turn rendering it less useable on machines like my 4 year old iMac (which was bought "new" from the Apple store 2 years ago!!!).

In the mean time I will sit tight, but considering the continued price gouging for Apple products, I suspect that my time as a Logic user is coming to an end in the near future, which, TBH, is a bit of a shame but I am not a slave to one DAW or one OS. Logic, Cubase, Studio One???? All are more than adequate. Windows or MacOs??? I really couldn't care...The OS simply supports the applications I run, I really don't interact with the OS.

I think you and I are more likely to be screwed by OS support, not Mac Pro support being added. I anticipate the next Logic update will abandon my Sierra Macs. One of my Macs cannot run High Sierra and the other cannot run Mojave. It’s not that the Mac Pro itself will push us off of Logic or stop us getting updates, it’s that Apple’s desire to make us buy ANY new Mac will do that by making sure Logic only works on the last two Mac OS versions, which wont work on our older machines.

[dayjob]

My concern about the future of Logic is that, as a pro app, apple are going to develop it to take advantage of the power of the new Mac Pro, in turn rendering it less useable on machines like my 4 year old iMac (which was bought "new" from the Apple store 2 years ago!!!).

In the mean time I will sit tight, but considering the continued price gouging for Apple products, I suspect that my time as a Logic user is coming to an end in the near future, which, TBH, is a bit of a shame but I am not a slave to one DAW or one OS. Logic, Cubase, Studio One???? All are more than adequate. Windows or MacOs??? I really couldn't care...The OS simply supports the applications I run, I really don't interact with the OS.

I think you and I are more likely to be screwed by OS support, not Mac Pro support being added. I anticipate the next Logic update will abandon my Sierra Macs. One of my Macs cannot run High Sierra and the other cannot run Mojave. It’s not that the Mac Pro itself will push us off of Logic or stop us getting updates, it’s that Apple’s desire to make us buy ANY new Mac will do that by making sure Logic only works on the last two Mac OS versions, which wont work on our older machines.

you're correct.
the specs at apple for next logic say that at least 10.13.6 "High Sierra" is required as minimum OS spec. that's the OS ceiling for my laptop. my desktop will run mojave if/when i put a metal capable graphics card in it.

but i use logic mostly for mixing though sometimes for starting projects. i use live and other stuff more and more making tracks these days. but logic is essential for mixing which i always do on the desktop so i should be covered for a while. used macs really re the way forward for many of us.

[jancivil]

Logic Pro X works on 2010 macs, tho
I ran Sierra on mine. Eventually they introduce incompatibility into the OS. The 2018 MB came with High Sierra, now I have Mojave. I don't think it would run Sierra.

[dayjob]

Logic Pro X works on 2010 macs, tho
I ran Sierra on mine. Eventually they introduce incompatibility into the OS. The 2018 MB came with High Sierra, now I have Mojave. I don't think it would run Sierra.

why would you want to run sierra?

yeah. my desktop is 2010 mac pro. laptop is 2011. both run logic fine w/high sierra. high sierra is fine. i wait as long as possible to update apple OS. i found a $200 (used) graphics card for my 2010 mac pro so once i get that in i'll be safe for a couple OS versions (i hope) beyond 10.4.5 mojave which i'm in no hurry to install.

for logic users, OS incompatibility will be a problem sooner than any hardware constraints.. but if you're older mac won't run mojave then that's kind of the same thing as a hardware constraint, eventually. i won't be surprised if logic 11 is mojave only... whenever it comes. though, they usually support one previous OS version right?

anyway.. i can't wait to make 1000 times better music due to the 1000 track count in coming logic. more tracks = better music obviously /s

it'd be nice of the rest of the plug ins in logic got some further updates/reworks.

[aMUSEd]

I still run Sierra, the problem with High Sierra for me is it's much stricter about adherence to SIP which renders some of my hardware and software incompatible without major workarounds (such as turning SIP off completely). It's also the last MacOs version my old MacMini will run so I'm leaving it till I have no choice.