Best guitar solo
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- KVRian
- 787 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from QLD, Australia
True, true and..... true Mr Franck.
I play guitar
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Well, except for the analysis of 'cool'. I'm glad you figured out a formula for what makes a phrase sound cool, but to me that's even more soulless than the soullessness you're talking about!
Sometimes what makes a phrase cool is its lack of coolness. And you never know when that's going to hit. I'd rather just play some parts, knowing that I at least like the way they sound. And if I like them, other people are likely to. Or not. Since I don't sell records, it's not a priority to me.
Steve Morse has awesome vibrato with a lot of soul. Something doesn't need to be funky to have soul. The purity of his vibrato represents a calmness of soul, which is different than a wild and unpredictable vibrato like SRV's stunning vibrato. It doesn't mean there's no soul, it just means that there's a different message being conveyed. <shrug>
Greg
Sometimes what makes a phrase cool is its lack of coolness. And you never know when that's going to hit. I'd rather just play some parts, knowing that I at least like the way they sound. And if I like them, other people are likely to. Or not. Since I don't sell records, it's not a priority to me.
Steve Morse has awesome vibrato with a lot of soul. Something doesn't need to be funky to have soul. The purity of his vibrato represents a calmness of soul, which is different than a wild and unpredictable vibrato like SRV's stunning vibrato. It doesn't mean there's no soul, it just means that there's a different message being conveyed. <shrug>
Greg
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Lunch Money wrote:Well, except for the analysis of 'cool'. I'm glad you figured out a formula for what makes a phrase sound cool, but to me that's even more soulless than the soullessness you're talking about!
Well, each to his own.Steve Morse has awesome vibrato with a lot of soul.
It's not as if I'd think I'd gathered the ultimate wisdom on what is cool or not, so there's a lot of subjective stuff involved - but IMO Steve Morse (while being a truly excellent player) is missing out on a lot of things one would describe as "soulful", "funky" or whatever. Which is a shame (IMO again).
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Sascha Franck wrote:IMO Steve Morse (while being a truly excellent player) is missing out on a lot of things one would describe as "soulful", "funky" or whatever. Which is a shame (IMO again).
Apparently we merely disagree about the definition of 'soul', which isn't surprising considering how wide and varied the definition of the word is in almost any area of human endeavour.Lunch Money wrote:Something doesn't need to be funky to have soul.
You consider funkiness or a "raw emotion" to be a part of soul, while I simply feel that the rawness or funkiness doesn't need to be there as long as the artist is expressing a particular emotion. In Steve Morse's case, I agree that he's not funky; however, I believe he's expressing other aspects of his soul.Greg
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- KVRian
- 637 posts since 5 Sep, 2001 from Hollywood, Ca. one block East of the Jack in the Box
Sorry, I missed this first time around.ouroborous wrote:to clarify: the sister shotgun in the LA scene in the 80's (I think it was sister...)
-no I don't remember them. By virtue of working for bands in the '80's and early'90's, I was out of town for at lease half of every year, so I missed a lot. (That's one reason I quit...)
...but if there's some specific person involved, I do know a few people...
Well, A girl I went out with briefly eventually married James Brown, and she loved my guitar playing, so, you know, I guess I'm inApparently we merely disagree about the definition of 'soul', which isn't surprising considering how wide and varied the definition of the word is in almost any area of human endeavour.
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- KVRian
- 637 posts since 5 Sep, 2001 from Hollywood, Ca. one block East of the Jack in the Box
Nope. Missed him.
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- KVRist
- 291 posts since 3 Dec, 2002 from tokyo
Glad to see a few Gary Moore fans on here. Must admit that since I discovered techno I dont really go in for guitar solos much. Anyhow Favourites:
Andrew Lloyd Webber's Variations (yes the Cats ALW!) It's got a brilliant Gary Moore solo on it. I just love his firey passionate playing (seeing his scrunched up face as he does it is another matter).The first Skid Row album has some good stuff on it too.
Others; Have to agree on All along the Watchtower, Crossroads solos,Allan Holdsworth, Hendrix slow solo at Woodstock, Michael Hedges before he started to sing (amazing in concert - saw him once).
Peter Green, post Fleetwood Mac album The End of the Game, first track Bottoms Up is really good, pacing phrasing and buildup is really good (Green was very close to going nuts at this stage, and it shows in this album).
Mick Taylor on Stones bootleg Bedspring Symphony. Keith R in great shape on this one too.
Mike Stern playing with Miles Davis, esp on We want Miles, another feel based passionate player like Gary Moore
Ry Cooder - I think its going to work out fine from Bop til you drop
Lowell George also for slide playing and TASTE.
Andrew Lloyd Webber's Variations (yes the Cats ALW!) It's got a brilliant Gary Moore solo on it. I just love his firey passionate playing (seeing his scrunched up face as he does it is another matter).The first Skid Row album has some good stuff on it too.
Others; Have to agree on All along the Watchtower, Crossroads solos,Allan Holdsworth, Hendrix slow solo at Woodstock, Michael Hedges before he started to sing (amazing in concert - saw him once).
Peter Green, post Fleetwood Mac album The End of the Game, first track Bottoms Up is really good, pacing phrasing and buildup is really good (Green was very close to going nuts at this stage, and it shows in this album).
Mick Taylor on Stones bootleg Bedspring Symphony. Keith R in great shape on this one too.
Mike Stern playing with Miles Davis, esp on We want Miles, another feel based passionate player like Gary Moore
Ry Cooder - I think its going to work out fine from Bop til you drop
Lowell George also for slide playing and TASTE.
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- KVRAF
- 8700 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
I love the tom intro from eastenders..
would make a great guitar solo
would make a great guitar solo
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- KVRAF
- 3125 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia
Peter Green on Need your love so bad, mmmmmmm.tony Smyth wrote: Peter Green, post Fleetwood Mac album The End of the Game...
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- KVRian
- 911 posts since 1 Dec, 2003 from tejas
During his all-too-short life, Shawn Lane never received the wide-spread credit and acclaim he deserved.SJ_Digriz wrote:Hmmm...all this talk about guitar solos and no mention of Shawn Lane?
He often found an exquisite balance between incredible virtuosity and pure "soul".
He will be missed.
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- KVRAF
- 1949 posts since 21 Mar, 2003 from Labrador
Mike was best with Miles. I saw the tour around the time that We Want Miles came out.tony Smyth wrote: Mike Stern playing with Miles Davis, esp on We want Miles, another feel based passionate player like Gary Moore
MS was so good that Miles stopped playing a trumpet solo and leaned against the PA and just listened to Stern solo! Then Miles asked him to do another solo!
I just wish that he would get rid of that damn chorus pedal on his solo albums-it sounds gimmicky beyond belief, like he's just another Pat Metheney clone. (Which Mike is obviously not!)
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- KVRAF
- 8700 posts since 9 Jan, 2004 from leroyaumeuni
the riff from smoke on the water
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- Banned
- 6127 posts since 1 Apr, 2004 from Et in Arcadia Ego
No, but I loved Upside-down Crossoldevil wrote:what? no Dinosaur Jr fans here?
