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Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:51 pm
simmo75 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:48 pm
Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:19 pm There is more than resizing added for those that have T-RackS 5, T-RackS 5 MAX, or T-RackS Deluxe. Please see the "What's New" section here for more information: https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/tr5cs/

Thank you.
Wait, what ?
You're saying that even though i've paid for my Tape Machines bundle that I have to buy another bundle to be able to use it properly?

Please tell me this isn't correct Peter?
You can still use the plugins properly. For the features noted at the link I posted, you would need to have of the products mentioned there.
Only, I can't see the tiny controls properly...
This is a complete con Peter, how can you justify it?

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simmo75 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:07 pm
Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:51 pm
simmo75 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:48 pm
Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:19 pm There is more than resizing added for those that have T-RackS 5, T-RackS 5 MAX, or T-RackS Deluxe. Please see the "What's New" section here for more information: https://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/tr5cs/

Thank you.
Wait, what ?
You're saying that even though i've paid for my Tape Machines bundle that I have to buy another bundle to be able to use it properly?

Please tell me this isn't correct Peter?
You can still use the plugins properly. For the features noted at the link I posted, you would need to have of the products mentioned there.
Only, I can't see the tiny controls properly...
This is a complete con Peter, how can you justify it?
I'm sorry to hear you are unhappy with this feature not being available with the processor Singles. I'll relay this to the team, and while the recent T-RackS 5 promotion is no longer available I can check to see if it can be included in an upcoming promotion as well.

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Do these IK plugins have a gange function to control multiple instances from one GUI?
Intel Core2 Quad CPU + 4 GIG RAM

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electro wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:56 pm Do these IK plugins have a gange function to control multiple instances from one GUI?
Ya man. Smoke de gange. Twiddle de knobs. Peace out.
Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

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I don't think there is a gang function on these. Would be nice though. For tape machines and console channel effects, it makes sense.

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simmo75 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:48 pm
Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:19 pm There is more than resizing added for those that have T-RackS 5, T-RackS 5 MAX, or T-RackS Deluxe. Please see the "What's New" section here for more information: ***

Thank you.
Wait, what ?
You're saying that even though i've paid for my Tape Machines bundle that I have to buy another bundle to be able to use it properly?

Please tell me this isn't correct Peter?
Vote with your wallets guys, don´t support this scummy company! The IKM douchebags are crippling their singles to push you into buying the bundles.

8)

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[A timeline of my raction to T-Racks5 since it's release.]

"I'm not giving them another penny until they allow resizable GUI's for all T-Racks plugins."

[Leslie Collection gets released. Purchased.]

"Well, this time I mean it! No matter what they do."

[T-Racks5 goes on sale for $49 last month. With Jam Points it's like $35. Purchased.]

"Well, a $35 upgrade for all my old Singles + the new Vari-Mu (which is excellent) is worth it. I don't expect all that development to be free. After all, I'm not a communist."

[Tape Machine Collection is released. Purchased next day.]

"It's really sucky they want to charge all you guys extra to get resizable GUI's. Good luck with that! Let me know if you want my signature on a change.org petition. I'm with you! In spirit anyway. :lol: "

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Peter, I commend you for developing an amazing product, but you really cannot take this approach. We don't all see the same and to charge someone extra because they may need a resizable GUI due to poor eyesight or wearing glasses is morally and fundamentally wrong, especially when the person has paid full price for the product. Charging extra for separate features is one thing, but to include the essentials of a resizable GUI in that cost is another.

I would be very careful with this sort of practice as a company, it will cause more damage than not to your customer base.
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I do find it odd that no matter how many single T-Racks plugins you own, you can't unlock all the features unless you specifically buy a bundle. Out of 45 singles available, I own 30 of them. But, I can't unlock the resizing feature, a feature I get with many other plugins as standard. And in fact, because I already own all of the plugins in the basic T-Racks 5 bundle (I think), I'm not going to buy the bundle just to unlock a feature that should be provided as standard. It's just strange, no other dev does this - forcing you to buy an upgrade to unlock features in a product you've purchased.

It's not a huge deal for me, they're the right size for my screen. But I can understand it would be very frustrating for someone to buy the full Tape bundle and discover that although the plugins support resizing, you can't resize them as you haven't bought enough to merit that feature.
A bit fried in the higher freqs

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I'd have understood, if for all past Singles, IK said, "Look, we added this resizing functionality, it was expensive to develop and redesign all of our GUI's, there's an upgrade fee for $49 to upgrade all your singles." This essentially how I rationalized purchasing T-Racks5 during last months sale. I just considered it a modest upgrade fee with some free new modules thrown in.

But even then, all, new singles should include the resizing feature out of the box. It's not like IK needs to go back and rework old code to add this feature to new plugins.

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You should apply for a position at IKMM. These ideas are fantastic. :tu:
Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

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Raddler1 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:26 pm Peter, I commend you for developing an amazing product, but you really cannot take this approach.
Peter does a good job of being the face of IK, and I genuinely mean that, but as I understand it, that's about the limit of his involvement with IK. He is not a dev, not does he have any specific input or involvement in the plugins or company policy. He is limited to interacting with customers (or potential customers) and relaying comments back to the powers-that-be.

If IK takes the decision to cripple their products in this manner, all Peter can do is to tell them that it is not a popular strategy based on customer feedback. Sure, if enough people raise it as an issue, perhaps that policy will change.

For example, back in the day you could use your Jam Points for up to 50% off - but only on full-priced products, not when they were on sale. People rightfully complained and said that this was not fair, IK listened and changed their policy so it's up to 30% across the board. So it can be done. But... I do feel that IK are happy to leave all the customer interaction (praise and grief) to Peter while they hide away in their ivory tower. I mean, I know nothing about IK other than they are Italian - no names, no faces, nobody ever introduces themselves, nothing. Peter is the only person who represents the company (certainly on forums). They are like a faceless corporation, and Peter is fairly powerless in the grand scheme of things.

But I respect what you do, Peter, but there are certainly times I think you are doing your best to defend the indefensible!
A bit fried in the higher freqs

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Each thread ends up this way: people complain about ilok, people complain about installers, people complain about jam points, people complain about serial numbers, etc....and almost no one mentions how does it sound, no proper reviews and feedbacks. Very sad. And the best things, its always the same people who complain and destroy threads. Honestly, I am not here to read your complains, I am here to understand, learn, read reviews, thoughts on the plugin itself. If you have issues, complain via mail to developer/support and dont be like old grandma and whine all the time on forums. Thank you!

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HcDoom wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:50 pm Each thread ends up this way: people complain about ilok, people complain about installers, people complain about jam points, people complain about serial numbers, etc....and almost no one mentions how does it sound, no proper reviews and feedbacks. Very sad. And the best things, its always the same people who complain and destroy threads. Honestly, I am not here to read your complains, I am here to understand, learn, read reviews, thoughts on the plugin itself. If you have issues, complain via mail to developer/support and dont be like old grandma and whine all the time on forums. Thank you!
In all honesty, there's been quite a bit of discussion about the sound and overall quality in this thread. At least compared to some other threads around here.

These all sound amazing. Like stupidly good. Like, I want to sell all my other tape plugins, which I hardly use any more, and put these new ones on everything. That said, the CPU usage is very high and there's moderate latency.

But sound quality-wise, this is a whole other level from IK.

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