Building new pc

[Itayaz]

Hey you all.
Im planing to build new pc.
Im coming from laptop expirience and had a dpc issues that never fixed.
Dell g3 with i7 8th and gtx 1060. Around 2500 ms in dpc latencymon always... i gave up.
And planning to buy new desktop.
Can u share your knowlage about dpc latency in desktop?
What i need to be affraid of?
This is what i thought to build: i also use a thunderbolt 3 sound card. Uad arrow..

Cpu : i7 9700k Turbo Coffee Lake-R S1151

Motherbord: ASRock Z390 ITX/AC

Cpu cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 LED TURBO DUALFAN (2x120mm) - Black

Ram: 2x8 Crucial Ballistix-Sport DDR4 3000Mhz GRAY CL16

Ssd: XPG 512G SX8200 PRO M.2 NVMe R/W Up To 3000/3500MB/s

Hard drive: Seagate 1T 3.5'' Sata3 Barracuda 7200RPM

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX Case Tempered Glass RGB Black

Power: FSP Hammer 600W 80+ Full Modular 5 Years Warranty

Video card:Gigabyte GeForce RTX2060 6G D6 Up to 1770Mhz WindForce2 OC .

Im looking for small desktop, and im playing games so thats y the rtx 2060.. thanks for helping !!

[Pictus]

Motherbord: ASRock Z390 ITX/AC

This model does not have good VRM and does not have Thunderbolt port.
The ASRock - Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac have better VRM and Thunderbolt port.

Cpu cooler: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 LED TURBO DUALFAN (2x120mm) - Black

Get a better cooler like be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4, it fits Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX.
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/c ... evolv_itx/

Case: Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ITX Case Tempered Glass RGB Black

Maybe a case with better airflow like NZXT H200

[Itayaz]

Sorry forgot to say its the phantom with the thunderbolt.
But is ther anithing to he afraid with dpc latency.. im coming from laptop world with lots of problems

[Pictus]

Set all CPU cores to the same speed and from https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/ar ... windows-10


Good tools
Overview - Process Hacker
Autoruns for Windows - Windows Sysinternals | Microsoft Docs



BTW, for audio I prefer AMD GPUs
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=503585

[Kalamata Kid]

Check out Black Viper
http://www.blackviper.com/service-confi ... gurations/

[Kalamata Kid]

Set all CPU cores to the same speed and from https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/ar ... windows-10


Good tools
Overview - Process Hacker
Autoruns for Windows - Windows Sysinternals | Microsoft Docs



BTW, for audio I prefer AMD GPUs
viewtopic.php?f=16&t=503585

On my i9-9900k music PC on LatencyMon on several attempts within an hour I got a message that this PC is not good for audio work:
One or more DPC routines that belong to a driver running on your system appear to be executing for too long. One problem may be related to Power management. Disable CPU throttling settings in control Panel and BIOS setup.

I did the routine mentioned and after 20 hours the message is green and healthy for audio work.
I did not however do the bottom "changing Bios Settings"

The other item I am concerned about is CPU throttling but not sure how to disable it.

For the record I don’t have any audio programs installed, not even the driver for my Focusrite 2i4.

The latest BIOS F8e is installed on the Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master motherboard.

[fmr]

Motherbord: ASRock Z390 ITX/AC

This model does not have good VRM and does not have Thunderbolt port.
The ASRock - Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac have better VRM and Thunderbolt port.

Hi

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I am thinking assembling a new computer, and was checking old threads, and noticed this one. The MoBo adced above only has one PCIe expansion slot (whch I assume will be taken by the graphics card).

Isn't there any similarly spec one that has more PCIe slots? Doesn't need to be ASRock, may be any brand as long as people have tried it for audio.

I am thinking using the RME UFX+ as the audio interface, but I'd like to have some expansion slots available, just in case.

Advices for the graphics card are welcome too. I plan to have two 4k displays, both driven from the same graphics card.

[Pictus]

Oi,
For more PCIe slots, get ATX motherboard.
The RME UFX+ is Thunderbolt version 1, right?
So better get ASRock Z390 Taichi or Z390 Taichi Ultimate
plus https://www.amazon.com/Asrock-Thunderbo ... B072JD1WWK
Will also need an adaptor&cable:
https://www.amazon.com/Thunderbolt-Adap ... B019FPJDQ2
https://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-W ... 00CIDLJWK/

Some more suggestions like:
A case with USB-C port like this
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VNF48d ... ef-r6c-bko

A silent PSU like https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/co ... 568-5.html
or https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/co ... 585-5.html

And NVMe SSD like the Corsair MP510 series that got TOP endurance, good
price and is fast.
https://www.anandtech.com/print/13438/t ... ssd-review

[fmr]

Oi,
For more PCIe slots, get ATX motherboard.
The RME UFX+ is Thunderbolt version 1, right?

Yes, but it is USB3 too. I was thunking in using the USB3 interface instead. I trust USB more over Windows. Nevertheless, I wille xamine your MoBo suggestions.

So better get ASRock Z390 Taichi or Z390 Taichi Ultimate
plus https://www.amazon.com/Asrock-Thunderbo ... B072JD1WWK

And NVMe SSD like the Corsair MP510 series that got TOP endurance, good
price and is fast.
https://www.anandtech.com/print/13438/t ... ssd-review

Do you think a PCIe SSD is better than a SATA one? I was undecided about that. I will of course use a SATA mechanic HD for the audio.

What about the graphics card? I read someone advising that a Radeon is preferred over NVidia for audio.

What wil be a good choice for driving two 4K displays?

[Pictus]

Do you think a PCIe SSD is better than a SATA one? I was undecided about that. I will of course use a SATA mechaninc HD for the audio.

Well, it is faster...
NVMe SSDs like the Corsair MP 510 is fast, so we can install everything
there, do not need a separate SSD for the OS/progs/samples, else for
some backup scheme like partition/disk image because it is not practical
if it is a 2 TB partition full of data...
Here I create a disk image(Macrium Reflect) from the OS/program disk and
file backup of the DATA(big) disk, we can remedy the situation by creating
2 partitions in the BIG NVMe SSD, one small for the OS/prog and the big
one for the rest...

For backup with external drive, ICY DOCK DuoSwap MB971SP-B

What about the graphics card? I read someone advising that a Radeon is preferred over NVidia for audio.

What wil be a good choice for driving two 4K displays?

I prefer AMD, see why
viewtopic.php?p=7060297
This AMD RX 570 has 3 DisplayPorts and it is not expensive
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tyNypg ... gaming-4gd

[legendCNCD]

For DPC check anandtech motherboard review and page System Performance, theres DPC tests for motherboards...

[Kalamata Kid]

^^^

Please provide link.
Thanks

[Pictus]

^^^

Please provide link.
Thanks

The DPC latency depends on a lot of things like BIOS/DRIVER/settings/etc
and the systems tested are not tweaked for audio/lower DPC.

For anyone interested in lower DPC:

1- Disable BIOS C-state
2- Set all CORES to the same speed
3- Disable CORE parking https://www.coderbag.com/product/quickcpu
4- Set Windows Power Plan to ULTIMATE
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/107 ... -10-a.html



Some stuff that may also helps:
https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
https://www.oo-software.com/en/ooappbuster

[fmr]

I found this store. It's located in Spain (which is more or less nearby). What do you think of their offers, in terms of price vs offer, as well as suggested components?

https://iclons.com/

[Pictus]

For price reference in Spain and many other countries use this https://es.pcpartpicker.com/