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- addled muppet weed
- 106347 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
- KVRAF
- 5824 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
No wonder this stuff has to be given away for 50% and more.
You should significantly improve your customer service and learn from the good people (e.g. the already mentioned Urs Heckmann), develop better plugins and stop spamming. Then there is a small chance that users will stop laughing about Spammer-George and DiscoDSP.
Btw. Sorry for Tim Tanaka that he has to see the bad reputation of DiscoDSP and George.
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- 33344 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Its not often you see a developer aim to deliver the business management skills of Wusik with the people skills of Admiral Quality and Gol...
my other modular synth is a bugbrand
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- KVRist
- 350 posts since 11 Jan, 2014
And do not refuse to take your medicine!discoDSP wrote: Yeah sure... I will go to therapy for 10 years because of your non-purchase. Is this clown infested thread going to be locked already?
This is hillarious at best or just plain stupid. If you can‘t handle/stand angry customers change business for god‘s sake!
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- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
quite an achievement reallywhyterabbyt wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:57 pm Its not often you see a developer aim to deliver the business management skills of Wusik with the people skills of Admiral Quality and Gol...
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- KVRist
- 110 posts since 8 Jan, 2018
- KVRAF
- 35404 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
This isn't about backups - it's about current updates. I can't access the current update of Discovery Pro despite the fact that it is a free update and neither can I access future bugfixes (I accept that at some point paid updates will happen, there is no entitlement there, I just want to access what was already paid for)audiojunkie wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 1:54 pmThat’s ludicrous! Suppose you crash your new car on the freeway. The dealer doesn’t owe you a new one. Suppose you scratched your new Blue ray disk and it no longer works. Should a movie theater let you in again for free to watch the same show again, just because you lost the plot? Make a backup like sane people do. I lost a year and a half of family pictures because my old hard drive finally failed and I didn’t make a backup. Should I expect the hard drive manufacturer to replace my out of warranty hard drive or should I sue because I lost my pictures? You were given a period of time to download the application for no additional cost when you bought it.AnX wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:22 amaudiojunkie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:01 pm So, on this Cloud thing....
We pay one one-time-yearly fee, and for all updates, for all of the DiscoDSP software licenses that we own, we get brought up to the latest version and get all additional updates to it for the course of that year? Then, if we want to get the updates for all of the instruments we own for the next year, we pay another one-time fee? And currently with the summer sale going on, we only have to pay $14.50? If that is true, that doesn't sound bad at all. Can someone at DiscoDSP confirm?
suppose your HD dies, or your PC, or your house burns down etc etc. Shit happens.
You then have to pay 30 bux to redownload something you have already paid for
theres the scam
where is the guarantee that this ADDITIONAL fee will include any updates? (not bug fixes)
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gentleclockdivider gentleclockdivider https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=203660
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- 6223 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent
True , but maintaining a server or cloud service costs money and I guess that's only reason why disco dsp is charging for it .AnX wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:45 ammost companies send a time limited link when you buy software, but you always have free access to it if you need it again.jacqueslacouth wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:19 am Not to jump to the defence of this but on looking at the email from my original purchase back in 2012 I found this...
"The URL is valid until 27-NOV-2012.
Please remember to make a backup copy of the software, e.g. on CD. We may
not be able to provide a new copy of the product you purchased free of
charge, if lost"
Sort of suggests George has not actually changed anything, rather, chosen to take advantage of a condition that he previously let go.
He just can't maintain the free uploads anymore , iow he's doing financially really bad
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gentleclockdivider gentleclockdivider https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=203660
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- 6223 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent
That's a far stretch ,4damind wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:07 am I don't like this spammer from DiscoDSP. As far as I know, the guy is just advertising and trying to sell the crap that others have developed.
Whatever... after my tests the plugins have a rather simple quality, nothing I would use in 2019 and nothing for professional use.
Yes most of disco dsp synth are coded by third parties , but discovery's zdf filters are george's work and they sound marvelous
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- KVRAF
- 15189 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Wow. I’ve been a proponent of Discovery Pro for many years. It definitely quenched my need for a Nord Lead, and after the last major filter update, I sold me 2x. Nothing else he’s made has really seemed that compelling to me, but to be honest, I tend to go for hardware synths these days, unless there’s something really special or weird about a plugin. I’m not saying the rest of his collection is bad in any way, just not for me.
I’ll no longer recommend Discovery Pro... or DiscoDSP at all. $29 a year just to download your plugin and get updates? How about adding some cool feature and then ask for a $29 update fee? I don’t think anyone (well, there’s always those idiots... :facepalm:) would really complain about that. I understand that having your own business is hard. I run my own business and its nearly impossible to get clients or sales for my book unless I really hussle. A lot of the time it feels like I’m working for nothing, but thinking that you can somehow milk customers for things that most the other developers provide for free is a huge mistake. I doubt many will bite, and in the end you just have a giant public relations mess.
Want to make money and garner good will from this community? Pick a synth that hasn’t been emulated and do a kick ass emulation. Ensoniq and E-Mu are ripe for the pick’n. Make a good virtual Fizmo and we’ll be talking about it for years.
I’ll no longer recommend Discovery Pro... or DiscoDSP at all. $29 a year just to download your plugin and get updates? How about adding some cool feature and then ask for a $29 update fee? I don’t think anyone (well, there’s always those idiots... :facepalm:) would really complain about that. I understand that having your own business is hard. I run my own business and its nearly impossible to get clients or sales for my book unless I really hussle. A lot of the time it feels like I’m working for nothing, but thinking that you can somehow milk customers for things that most the other developers provide for free is a huge mistake. I doubt many will bite, and in the end you just have a giant public relations mess.
Want to make money and garner good will from this community? Pick a synth that hasn’t been emulated and do a kick ass emulation. Ensoniq and E-Mu are ripe for the pick’n. Make a good virtual Fizmo and we’ll be talking about it for years.
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
I’d be contacting Plugin Alliance and have them distribute it and do customer service. It’s a win win IMO.
That said, I’m obviously not completely familiar with the nitty gritty of a PA distributor contract but I would be investigating it.
That said, I’m obviously not completely familiar with the nitty gritty of a PA distributor contract but I would be investigating it.
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- KVRAF
- 4220 posts since 15 Sep, 2010
Nice, among with Elton John now we have U2's praise for plugins, I must get them as soon as possible.
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- KVRAF
- 10260 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris
What people do with synths they purchased should not be mentioned, and, in the worst case, be attacked, in any case. Music should never be attacked. You can like the music, hate it, or have nothing to care about it, but it's all personal things.discoDSP wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:34 amSays who? Oh yes, a ordinary guy with the most unoriginal music ever written since Mozart. Discovery Pro synth has been praised by many top musician like Terry Lawless, U2 keyboardist. I don't think your opinion is of any relevance at all.4damind wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:07 am I don't like this spammer from DiscoDSP. As far as I know, the guy is just advertising and trying to sell the crap that others have developed.
Whatever... after my tests the plugins have a rather simple quality, nothing I would use in 2019 and nothing for professional use.
Oh, and regarding the people who want to go legal... these lawyers seem the best for you.
The only mission/goal of a synthesizer developper/team is to offer the best possible instruments they can provide to musicians.
It ends here, and imho, it's a beautiful one, and far enough to fill one's life.
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- KVRAF
- 5824 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
I just noticed that the original developer of Discovery died (?) and so it got more complicated because he doesn't have the necessary DSP knowledge for further development.gentleclockdivider wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:31 pm That's a far stretch ,
Yes most of disco dsp synth are coded by third parties , but discovery's zdf filters are george's work and they sound marvelous
I don't think the plugins are of a high quality and I don't think anyone will compare them to U-He, Arturia, Reveal Sound, Xils or other known developers. The plugins are IMO under the radar and probably won't sell well either.
This "George" is IMO just a spammer who doesn't want to win new customers and chases away old customers. You just have to read his comments and some will think: "I will never buy anything from this nutcase".
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