Commercial linux audio softwares

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audiojunkie
KVRAF
2828 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah

Post Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:51 pm

Great posts!!! BTW, have you guys heard of WinePak? It's a repository where people Flatpak Windows apps along with Wine (and the needed configurations) in a totally sandboxed environment. It might be useful someday if they ever start packaging Audio apps. :-)

https://www.winepak.org/
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glokraw
KVRAF
6926 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Re: Commercial linux audio softwares

Post Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:32 am

Thanks for sharing this, it's all news to me!
My first thought, is can multiple apps be added to an existing flatpak...
If so, picking one of the graphics and net intensive games
might include the internals needed by Native Instruments
and other intrusive/over-protected, but sometimes delightful
audio applications. Found some related links

https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2019/01/

https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2018/12 ... ne-design/

(and to think I was going pruning in my mini-amazon today... :roll:

Cheers

audiojunkie
KVRAF
2828 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah

Re: Commercial linux audio softwares

Post Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:33 am

glokraw wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:32 am
Thanks for sharing this, it's all news to me!
My first thought, is can multiple apps be added to an existing flatpak...
If so, picking one of the graphics and net intensive games
might include the internals needed by Native Instruments
and other intrusive/over-protected, but sometimes delightful
audio applications. Found some related links

https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2019/01/

https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2018/12 ... ne-design/

(and to think I was going pruning in my mini-amazon today... :roll:

Cheers
Hehe!! Let us know how it goes! :-)
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audiojunkie
KVRAF
2828 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah

Re: Commercial linux audio softwares

Post Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:44 am

glokraw wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:32 am
Thanks for sharing this, it's all news to me!
My first thought, is can multiple apps be added to an existing flatpak...
If so, picking one of the graphics and net intensive games
might include the internals needed by Native Instruments
and other intrusive/over-protected, but sometimes delightful
audio applications. Found some related links

https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2019/01/

https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2018/12 ... ne-design/

(and to think I was going pruning in my mini-amazon today... :roll:

Cheers
Those blogs look interesting. I'd sure love to learn how to make Flatpaks. It would be really cool to set up a default Windows Audio flatpak that you can just install Reaper (or whatever) into and everything would just work properly with Windows apps. :-)
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audiojunkie
KVRAF
2828 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah

Re: Commercial linux audio softwares

Post Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:47 am

I've learned how to set up the real-time (Debian) and low-latency (Ubuntu) kernels, so I'm able to use whatever desktop environment I want to with the Debian/Ubuntu families of distros. All I would need is a nice WinePak Windows Audio environment and I'd be able to easily load a ton of software that I already own. :-)
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glokraw
KVRAF
6926 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Re: Commercial linux audio softwares

Post Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:14 pm

Here is a ruff skitch of how I installed
Kontakt 6 and Reaktor 6 in linux Mint 18, in a fresh empty
wine-staging 4.12-1. Not as easy as in windoze, but they
are two flagships of audio production, and a welcome addition
to my linux systems. Links and steps below, hope someone uses them
in part, to enjoy whats on offer, both commercial, and free,
keep in mind there may be better ways possible, but this is
'How I Got To Memphis'

wine-staging https://www.winehq.org/

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... 6/pricing/

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... 6/library/

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/s ... ve-access/

There are free Kontakt, Reaktor, Guitar Rig player versions
at the link below, to test the process, along with Native Access,
which is always free:

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/products/free/

Some of you may not even need these steps, but in my case,
when Native Access is used in linux-wine to download an iso as part
of an installation process, it fails, and closes with some error. BUT...
the download actually completed, and the iso is safely waiting
for manual actions to comlete the desired installation.

The steps, while tedious, are simple commands,
and basic copy/paste, and there is no race, beyond
ones anticipation of using some new software.

I Started with a fresh empty wine, and 200 gig of disk space.
(a fresh modern linux installed on a new
512 gig ssd would be even better)

There are seven K6 sound libraries as part of the purchase,
and when the iso dust settles,
there can be almost 50 gig of disk space occupied. So lots of extra
'scratchpad' disk space is lucky, contiguous space to be preferred.

I installed the following items in wine, to get the ball rolling
for Kontakt and Native Access

vcredist2010_x64.exe

vcredist2013_x64.exe

vcredist2015_2017_2019_x86.exe

vcredist2015_2017_2019_x64.exe

the above from: https://www.techpowerup.com/download/operating-system/

Then installed an offline dotnet framework from

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downloa ... x?id=55167

Then I made a wine over-ride for gdiplus.dll

(It looks to me like most dlls that I might have made over-rides for,
in the past, have now been integrated in wine-staging, based on
only the size comparisons between 'full' versions,
and those now part of wine. Not scientific,
not based on any real knowledge)

I make a dir to hold and mount the various iso files:

sudo mkdir /media/cdrom

For example, to install the main Kontakt sound library,
run Native Access from a terminal,

wine /home/you/.wine/drive_c/"Program Files/Native Instruments/Native Access/Native Access.exe"

cd /home/you/.wine/drive_c/users/you/Downloads

here you find Kontakt_Factory_Library.iso

Now, you need to mount the iso, so you can access and run the installer it contains, so this (all on one command line)

sudo mount -t udf /home/you/.wine/drive_c/users/you/Downloads/Kontakt_Factory_Library.iso -o unhide /media/cdrom

now, cd /media/cdrom and then ls to see installer executable
inside, and then

wine "Kontakt Factory Library 1.3.0 Setup PC.exe"

When the installer completes, restart Native Access,
and supply the serial number,
and begin the process again if there is more to install.

When the terminal command prompt is in the mounted /media/cdrom
type cd .. to back up one folder in the path to /media
then mount the next iso file, type cd cdrom and ls
agin to see the new installer file to use.

Native Access displays the status of your NI products, so a newly installed item
moves off the 'not installed' list. The gui presents an icon holding info for each
software that is available. Here's a video:

https://youtu.be/LH1oUUn5-VY

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The full version of Reaktor comes with several sets of 'blocks',
and it's own excellent library of instrument and effect ensembles
(blocks are modules for building synths and effects)

The same iso steps will get a Reaktor setup in your linux, and there is the reaktor 'user library' actually a parallel universe of free ready-to-use 'ensembles', which are like a plugin to be hosted in Reaktor.
Many of these are fabulous, amazing feats of creativity,
and will run for 30 minutes in the free Reaktor player
before needing a reload, The library can be sorted by rating, downloads,
all-time status, age etc many with useful descriptions and
user comments to peruse.

The free Reaktor player comes with several instruments to get things started.
There are also many quality commercial Reaktor instruments at good prices,
and there is often a black friday/holiday sale where people might stockpile
a few bargains for the new year, and hopefully have saved up something
for a high-end product.

Good luck, and feel free to post tips, corrections and experiences.



Woahhh!!! Looked outside, and it's already the weekend!
:hyper: :party: :hyper:
Cheers
Last edited by glokraw on Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.

glokraw
KVRAF
6926 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Re: Commercial linux audio softwares

Post Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:03 pm

I almost forgot to roll the credits :dog:

Jack Winter and osxmidi at the reaper linux forum,

https://forum.cockos.com/forumdisplay.php?f=52

are often the roots, branches and fruits of things I pass along here,
regarding wine and vsts, many thanks for their research
and contributions!

And another poster over there, Glennbo, makes some fine music
with Kontakt in linux as part of his setup, heres a link from his sig

https://www.soundclick.com/html5/v4/pla ... andID=5672

Cheers

audiojunkie
KVRAF
2828 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah

Re: Commercial linux audio softwares

Post Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:46 pm

Nice!!! 😎👍🏼
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