IK Multimedia releases MODO DRUM
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- KVRAF
- 1972 posts since 14 Mar, 2006
insta buy for me with the modo bass discount, and I love modo bass. We shall see how much I end up loving it, I needed more drums like I need a hole in my head....but I am definitely intrigued and perhaps the modeling can be used to create artificial yet cool sounding percussive sounds too, we shall see.
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- KVRAF
- 1742 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
Gonna pass on this. It’s an over saturated market already and I prefer single shot wav samples arranged in my daw. Each to their own.
I wonder what happens if I press this button...
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
Fair enough Peter. Anyway I can actually get to hear it?Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:34 pmThat looks like shallow steel shell snare drum, tuned fairly high, tight tension on the snares. I'm sure MODO DRUM could get you there. It's not super unique compared to what's available in MODO DRUM aside from being a specific brand.wagtunes wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:02 pm Okay, I watched what videos (2) are available (unless I'm missing some). Here's my question.
There are 10 kits that are modeled. What if I want to sound like Stewart Copeland's Tama kit, especially that snare sound? I don't see anything in the models that comes close.
So again, we're still limited to the kits that are modeled. We can't exactly model a specific kit if it's not one of the 10 modeled kits.
Okay, so if I'm wrong, what am I missing?
Here's Stewart Copelands SC145.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eliwSfyA1WQ
Let me hear MODO Drums do this and you've sold me.
- KVRian
- 679 posts since 29 Nov, 2002 from Finland
Well, it’s still a major step forward in the big scheme of things. I’m approaching these things both as a practical (?) and professional (?) music producer, and as a little kid who is really excited about technology and cool stuff. Can’t wait to try it!Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:27 pm Thanks. Correction to my previous post, though, with regard to "nothing else than some mathematical equations". We are able to blend some samples with the modeling on the drums too where appropriate to achieve the best most realistic representation of the settings you choose. Sorry about that, was being too concise and missed a note about the progress of MODO DRUM as it moves toward release.
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- KVRAF
- 9133 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
requests:
An SE version bundled with UNO Drum. The fullmealdeal
will be overkill for me by itself, as is UNO Drum by itself,
but together, I think there could be a $weet $pot
(An unbundled SE would also be great with the UNO synth arpeggiator,
which already gets lots of use on the drum sounds I have here)
Ability to use the mixer/effects with sounds input from ST4/A4!!!
Modeling and choices of various strikers, brushes, mallots etc
Using pause and slo-mo on the demo vids gives a good feel
for what's coming.
Cheers
An SE version bundled with UNO Drum. The fullmealdeal
will be overkill for me by itself, as is UNO Drum by itself,
but together, I think there could be a $weet $pot
(An unbundled SE would also be great with the UNO synth arpeggiator,
which already gets lots of use on the drum sounds I have here)
Ability to use the mixer/effects with sounds input from ST4/A4!!!
Modeling and choices of various strikers, brushes, mallots etc
Using pause and slo-mo on the demo vids gives a good feel
for what's coming.
Cheers
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- KVRian
- 1360 posts since 4 Aug, 2004 from Ain't tellin' ya...
Even if only the cymbals are sampled, it's still an acceptable compromise between sampled and fully modeled drums.
Nothing is perfect. MODO BASS isn't 100% perfect but it's far, far better than any sample library bass. And that's why I own it.
Now that I have both the bass and the drums I'll be able to start getting work done.
Still waiting for the guitars but I am sure they will come soon.
Nothing is perfect. MODO BASS isn't 100% perfect but it's far, far better than any sample library bass. And that's why I own it.
Now that I have both the bass and the drums I'll be able to start getting work done.
Still waiting for the guitars but I am sure they will come soon.
Little Black Dog - 2008-Present
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- KVRian
- 1360 posts since 4 Aug, 2004 from Ain't tellin' ya...
It might be an "oversaturated" market but there is always room for improvement. The virtual bass and virtual guitar markets are "saturated" as well...but there are diamonds and there are cubic zirconia. The MODO line are diamonds as far as I'm concerned. They save space and provide more realism - especially the basses. But the drums will too. I'd estimate they will save me around 80GB of hard disk space.ramseysounds wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:44 pm Gonna pass on this. It’s an over saturated market already and I prefer single shot wav samples arranged in my daw. Each to their own.
Little Black Dog - 2008-Present
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Peter - IK Multimedia Peter - IK Multimedia https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=217907
- KVRAF
- 7864 posts since 20 Oct, 2009
Thanks! Any sampling used alongside the modeling would be minimal and logical. Doing things that make sense for the quality and usability of the tool was paramount here, it isn't for any "lazy" reason and isn't excessive. It serves the end purpose of MODO DRUM and in context of the whole.
Though you have a whole mix of contexts there, good to see excitement and general tech interest intertwined with the practicality.
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- KVRAF
- 7864 posts since 20 Oct, 2009
I do indeed hope that's a fair approach - that's how I'd approach the objective you mention, though there are still some tweaks between and after those steps I'm sure.wagtunes wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:45 pmFair enough Peter. Anyway I can actually get to hear it?Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:34 pmThat looks like shallow steel shell snare drum, tuned fairly high, tight tension on the snares. I'm sure MODO DRUM could get you there. It's not super unique compared to what's available in MODO DRUM aside from being a specific brand.wagtunes wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:02 pm Okay, I watched what videos (2) are available (unless I'm missing some). Here's my question.
There are 10 kits that are modeled. What if I want to sound like Stewart Copeland's Tama kit, especially that snare sound? I don't see anything in the models that comes close.
So again, we're still limited to the kits that are modeled. We can't exactly model a specific kit if it's not one of the 10 modeled kits.
Okay, so if I'm wrong, what am I missing?
Here's Stewart Copelands SC145.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eliwSfyA1WQ
Let me hear MODO Drums do this and you've sold me.
Currently the videos available on the MODO DRUM product pages, and then we'll get to releasing this as soon as we can.
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- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
BFD3 has modeled (no one has defined this and we've beat it around a bit here) cymbal swell for some years now, and Superior Drums has something as well. Your point is pretty well mooted by this at least in the BFD3 usage I'm familiar with for a few years now.twitewhite wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:50 pmThat's a disappointment, as generally everything but the cymbals are good enough sampled. It's the cymbals/hi-hats and specifically how they interact with previous hits that usually gives away the fact that it's a sample, not the real drum sound.Peter - IK Multimedia wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:23 pmOnly sampled portions are cymbals. All drums in MODO DRUM are physically modeled.
Modeling cymbals themselves with no sampling would be quite suspect to me: I implied earlier that it's a combo of modeling and samples that is required.
I'm kind of interested now.
- KVRian
- 1421 posts since 14 Apr, 2016 from Germany
Regarding the "fully modeled drums": It seems you overlooked an important detail lately.benjamind wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:54 pm Even if only the cymbals are sampled, it's still an acceptable compromise between sampled and fully modeled drums.
Nothing is perfect. MODO BASS isn't 100% perfect but it's far, far better than any sample library bass. And that's why I own it.
Now that I have both the bass and the drums I'll be able to start getting work done.
Still waiting for the guitars but I am sure they will come soon.
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
I think the demos sound very promising! This was an insta buy for me, especially based on the previous quality of MODO Bass.
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.
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- KVRAF
- 2945 posts since 23 Dec, 2002
I am almost there but I need to know how it integrates with electronic drum kits. I don't like to finger drum acoustic style drums...I like the feel of sticks for that.
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
I suck at drumming. I’ve actually had it on my list for years now to get an electronic kit so I could practice without my family killing me. For now, I’ll have to make do with the included MIDI patterns, and also mapping it to be controlled by Jamstix.
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.