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- KVRer
- 6 posts since 25 Mar, 2004
Dirtgrain,
It is from the intro song of A Momentary Lapse of Reason. I played it memory, just an evocation.
Riared,
It's not a patch from scratch. I played the preset Dual HP Pad and modified it.
Your sound makes me think of Kavinsky.
It is from the intro song of A Momentary Lapse of Reason. I played it memory, just an evocation.
Riared,
It's not a patch from scratch. I played the preset Dual HP Pad and modified it.
Your sound makes me think of Kavinsky.
- KVRian
- 1487 posts since 14 Jul, 2013 from Sweden
- KVRian
- 1487 posts since 14 Jul, 2013 from Sweden
Good to see you care for my commentsvurt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:48 pmthen just avoid the threadsfd wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:28 am In an earlier comment regarding MSF I said that I consider it being a gimmick of no interest to me as a musician. That comment woke quite a bit of anger among the fanboys.
Sounds are, to some extent but not entirely, what colors are to a painter. Even though more colors allows more options it doesn't necessarily mean a better painting.
For a musician sounds are not the basic element of a composition. Other then as something audibly. The core element of a musical composition is - melody.
That is what makes a song memorable. Take any melody by Mozart. What instrument / sound ? It doesn't matter.
That said, it doesn't mean sounds are irrelevant. Just as colors to a painter are not irrelevant. But what really matters is the motif.
And so, here we've a tool that can tweak sounds into a sub-particle level. Here I can have one thousand rimshots. But what am I going to do with one thousand rimshots ?
Unsurprisingly nobody talks about MSF in terms of musicality or even as a musical instrument. It's all about technology. Where nobody lift their eyes above the tweaking of sub sub sub sonic particles - and views it from a perspective of it's purpose. Creating sounds. And lift their eyes above that - creating music.
Notably, nobody demonstrates any sound made by this thing. Even less so by illustrating the parameters used - that shows that the sound could only have been made with this thing. And even less so, but not surprisingly, nobody has came out with any music done with this thing.
Notably the waste majority of the fanboys do not make music. At least nothing they share in their profiles. And equally as many do not share any sounds either. It's just an obsession to technology without looking at it's core , supposed , purpose.
What matters to me is the motif of the panting and the skill it's made by. Not the chemical components of the colors.
To me, as a musician, it's the end result that counts. For that MSF doesn't change anything. Bartok made great music played on a ridiculously limited instrument as a piano. And so far non of the MSF sub-sonic-particle tweaking fanboys have not show up anything convincing (anything at all actually) that can only have been made thanks to MSF. Especially not musically. Especially not as an illustration that MSF makes any relevant difference, of any significance, to the - music.
why does it matter to you what others do?
that's a question for you to mull over internally, i dont need the answer.
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- KVRian
- 786 posts since 1 Aug, 2016
You would do well here https://www.reddit.com/r/gatekeeping/sfd wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 11:19 amGood to see you care for my commentsvurt wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 2:48 pmthen just avoid the threadsfd wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 9:28 am In an earlier comment regarding MSF I said that I consider it being a gimmick of no interest to me as a musician. That comment woke quite a bit of anger among the fanboys.
Sounds are, to some extent but not entirely, what colors are to a painter. Even though more colors allows more options it doesn't necessarily mean a better painting.
For a musician sounds are not the basic element of a composition. Other then as something audibly. The core element of a musical composition is - melody.
That is what makes a song memorable. Take any melody by Mozart. What instrument / sound ? It doesn't matter.
That said, it doesn't mean sounds are irrelevant. Just as colors to a painter are not irrelevant. But what really matters is the motif.
And so, here we've a tool that can tweak sounds into a sub-particle level. Here I can have one thousand rimshots. But what am I going to do with one thousand rimshots ?
Unsurprisingly nobody talks about MSF in terms of musicality or even as a musical instrument. It's all about technology. Where nobody lift their eyes above the tweaking of sub sub sub sonic particles - and views it from a perspective of it's purpose. Creating sounds. And lift their eyes above that - creating music.
Notably, nobody demonstrates any sound made by this thing. Even less so by illustrating the parameters used - that shows that the sound could only have been made with this thing. And even less so, but not surprisingly, nobody has came out with any music done with this thing.
Notably the waste majority of the fanboys do not make music. At least nothing they share in their profiles. And equally as many do not share any sounds either. It's just an obsession to technology without looking at it's core , supposed , purpose.
What matters to me is the motif of the panting and the skill it's made by. Not the chemical components of the colors.
To me, as a musician, it's the end result that counts. For that MSF doesn't change anything. Bartok made great music played on a ridiculously limited instrument as a piano. And so far non of the MSF sub-sonic-particle tweaking fanboys have not show up anything convincing (anything at all actually) that can only have been made thanks to MSF. Especially not musically. Especially not as an illustration that MSF makes any relevant difference, of any significance, to the - music.
why does it matter to you what others do?
that's a question for you to mull over internally, i dont need the answer.
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gentleclockdivider gentleclockdivider https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=203660
- KVRAF
- 6075 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent
Most of you are really missing the point when it comes to giving examples of so called warm sounds
A karplus strong algoritm will not sound any different in melda fromr any other synth , since it's just a tuned delay line with a filter in the feedback loop ( for damping )
Sure you can make msf sound warm and lush , hence the amount of modules .
For me the best test case for warm sounds is a simple harmonically rich waveform into a decaying LP filter , the filters in melda are imho def. lacking ..even turbofilter
A karplus strong algoritm will not sound any different in melda fromr any other synth , since it's just a tuned delay line with a filter in the feedback loop ( for damping )
Sure you can make msf sound warm and lush , hence the amount of modules .
For me the best test case for warm sounds is a simple harmonically rich waveform into a decaying LP filter , the filters in melda are imho def. lacking ..even turbofilter
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Soul calibrating ..frequencies
Soul calibrating ..frequencies
- KVRian
- 1487 posts since 14 Jul, 2013 from Sweden
+1gentleclockdivider wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:07 pm Most of you are really missing the point when it comes to giving examples of so called warm sounds
A karplus strong algoritm will not sound any different in melda fromr any other synth , since it's just a tuned delay line with a filter in the feedback loop ( for damping )
Sure you can make msf sound warm and lush , hence the amount of modules .
For me the best test case for warm sounds is a simple harmonically rich waveform into a decaying LP filter , the filters in melda are imho def. lacking ..even turbofilter
And that's also what I suggested.
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- KVRian
- 786 posts since 1 Aug, 2016
We are not missing the point. We are demonstrating that warm analog sounds can be produced in MSF. Really doesn't require much effort actually.gentleclockdivider wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:07 pm Most of you are really missing the point when it comes to giving examples of so called warm sounds
A karplus strong algoritm will not sound any different in melda fromr any other synth , since it's just a tuned delay line with a filter in the feedback loop ( for damping )
Sure you can make msf sound warm and lush , hence the amount of modules .
For me the best test case for warm sounds is a simple harmonically rich waveform into a decaying LP filter , the filters in melda are imho def. lacking ..even turbofilter
- KVRAF
- 21191 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
I still haven't heard anyone make it sound like an Oberheim 4 voice or OB-X yet.
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- KVRian
- 786 posts since 1 Aug, 2016
- KVRAF
- 3502 posts since 12 Jan, 2019
Cheap Stone in Focus knockoff: https://soundcloud.com/fritz-e-18766441 ... n-focusish
I think it's warm.
I think it's warm.
Doing nothing is only fun when you have something you are supposed to do.
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- KVRian
- 786 posts since 1 Aug, 2016
This one to me sounds FM-ish a little bit and a little digital as a result actually. Still sounds good though!Dirtgrain wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2019 12:41 pm Cheap Stone in Focus knockoff: https://soundcloud.com/fritz-e-18766441 ... n-focusish
I think it's warm.
- KVRAF
- 21191 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
No, actually I heard it sound dull and lifeless.