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ABprod · Post by **ABprod** » Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:37 am

I’ve tried a few of them and the best I’ve found is east west piainos gold ? Thoughts ?

pljones · Post by **pljones** » Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:12 am

It depends.

imrae · Post by **imrae** » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:05 pm

What kind of pianos do you like?

RichieWitch · Post by **RichieWitch** » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:28 am

TVBO from Sampletekk. Probably the most highly-sampled piano you'll find. 33 velocity layers per key, if I remember correctly. The new version lets you pick from two different mics, built-in reverb, MIDI compression, and such. It's always been my favorite. There was a walk-thru posted just the other day.

https://youtu.be/6rRf598R2f8

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:01 am

for a grand piano, the Yamaha CFX by VSL in their Synchron Stage, or if you like more brilliant their Synchron Steinway.

'the most highly-sampled you'll find', I tend to doubt that. up to 4200 per key in the Yamaha.

RichieWitch · Post by **RichieWitch** » Sun Jun 23, 2019 2:35 pm

jancivil wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:01 am'the most highly-sampled you'll find', I tend to doubt that. up to 4200 per key in the Yamaha.

Wow! You're right. Very impressive.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:53 pm

it takes up an awful lot of space. I really like the Synchron Stage mixing paradigm, you can turn that piano into anything right there inside the one plugin.

yumyum123 · Post by **yumyum123** » Sun Jun 23, 2019 4:22 pm

Wow! I though 1200 samples per key (https://www.vsl.co.at/en/Keyboards_Comp ... a_Imperial) was insane/excessive, but 4200 (almost four times more) takes the cake.

For my own answer, I think Embertone's VST (https://www.embertone.com/instruments/concertD.php) based on a Steinway piano is almost universally well-regarded, but there may be better ones out there.

McLilith · Post by **McLilith** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 12:14 am

jancivil wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:01 am'the most highly-sampled you'll find', I tend to doubt that. up to 4200 per key in the Yamaha.

There are only 131,072 available sample zones in a Kontakt instrument. If evenly distributed across an 88-key piano, that's "only" about 1,489 possible samples per key. Obviously, many of the keys are getting far less than 4,200 samples devoted to them. I wonder how they distributed the samples across the keyboard, and how do they decide which keys should have more samples and which keys should have fewer?

yellowmix · Post by **yellowmix** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:34 am

VSL doesn't use Kontakt. There are other samplers, you know.

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:40 am

what are the 4200 samples grouped as... its obvs not just velocity.... round robin, damped, sustain.... must be more categories than that

be interested to know

McLilith · Post by **McLilith** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 6:52 am

yellowmix wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:34 am VSL doesn't use Kontakt. There are other samplers, you know.

Oops.

yellowmix · Post by **yellowmix** » Mon Jun 24, 2019 7:17 am

AnX wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2019 5:40 am what are the 4200 samples grouped as... its obvs not just velocity.... round robin, damped, sustain.... must be more categories than that

Same. Would be cool if they recorded note combinations for sympathetic resonance. Think about how many combinations of notes that would involve!

spigmu · Post by **spigmu** » Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:57 am

Some of the most amazingly impressive when auditioned are the worst to make fit in a track. And sometimes a really incredibly responsive and satisfying piano simply has less mojo than the cheaper one. Mojoless excellent piano < less excellent piano with mojo.

Forgotten · Post by **Forgotten** » Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:13 am

It really depends on what you expect a piano to sound like. Every pianist has a preference for the sound of the piano they play, so there is not going to be a single 'best' piano that everyone agrees on.

What’s the best sample piano