Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Out Now!)

[EvilDragon]

Big synth developers produce bad sounding synths in the last years and this is a fact!I'm disappointed about that plastic sound

Get a new pair of ears, pronto.


What you say is not a fact, it's a subjective opinion (that's also wrong).

[Functional]

Big synth developers produce bad sounding synths in the last years and this is a fact!I'm disappointed about that plastic sound

...what "plastic sound"?

[chk071]

I can understand the "character" thing. Massive X sounds modern, and doesn't have loads of character. The sound is great nonetheless. it just doesn't have a immediate distinction.

[EvilDragon]

With Monark filter it doesn't have to sound "modern" at all, tho.

[vurt]

Big synth developers produce bad sounding synths in the last years and this is a fact!I'm disappointed about that plastic sound

Get a new pair of ears, pronto.


What you say is not a fact, it's a subjective opinion (that's also wrong).

im pretty sure if you add the "!" its does actually become a fact.

[jancivil]

"Did you ever automate 30 parameters at once from a single plugin in the same track? Like, honestly."


I wouldn't with a mere synthesizer. Massive I was doing 6 or 8.
I do over 30 with BFD3 and VSL Synchron. These have mixers. I automate 0 of the former that isn't fr. a mixer, except for CC for variable hihat(s).

[ghettosynth]

On the macro naming thing. I posted on this earlier and after more experimenting I found the following:

If you map a new new macro the name changes on Massive X but it remains Macro x on maschine.

If you remap an existing macro, again, the name changes on Massive X but it remains whatever it was prior on Maschine.

If you double click the name and manually edit it, this updates Maschine.

[buzz1]

Big synth developers produce bad sounding synths in the last years and this is a fact!I'm disappointed about that plastic sound

Get a new pair of ears, pronto.


What you say is not a fact, it's a subjective opinion (that's also wrong).

Can it be wrong if it is subjective?

[vurt]

Big synth developers produce bad sounding synths in the last years and this is a fact!I'm disappointed about that plastic sound

Get a new pair of ears, pronto.


What you say is not a fact, it's a subjective opinion (that's also wrong).

Can it be wrong if it is subjective?

not usually, but hes just broke the laws of opinion physics.

[EvilDragon]

"Did you ever automate 30 parameters at once from a single plugin in the same track? Like, honestly."


I wouldn't with a mere synthesizer. Massive I was doing 6 or 8.
I do over 30 with BFD3 and VSL Synchron. These have mixers. I automate 0 of the former that isn't fr. a mixer, except for CC for variable hihat(s).

Yep, it does make sense with plugins that have their own mixers, like drum samplers.


Thanks for confirming my point

[ghettosynth]

Don't quote me on this but I don't think you can

WTF? That seems like a pretty big omission to me.

Not at all. It's a mono path up to the effects stage where it becomes stereo. To do otherwise would either force the modular signal path to be stereo which would double the CPU for all of the other poly modules, or complicate the path by making the modular environment stereo and then having the modules either default to mono with one connection or be stereo otherwise.

Icarus, Hive, Dune and Synthmaster manage it just fine. Ah well.

Edit: quoted wrong person but point is the same.

If you're panning oscillators before feeding filters then the filter is stereo, full stop. So if those synths "manage" it then it's because it's a choice to have a stereo signal path. Hive is designed to be easy on the CPU, it does not sound as good as the Monark filter, full stop. Synthmaster is fun, but not even close to being in the same league. I don't think Synthmaster even registers on my CPU meter.

It's a design choice.

[Spirit2017]

EvilDragon its a fact!

[vurt]

see, he did use the "!"

[EvilDragon]

EvilDragon its a fact!

It's not a fact without a PROOF. Where's your proof that can be independently verified or disproved? Other than just randomly rambling about it, and, yes, ending your sentences with an exclamation mark?

It's not a fact

[chk071]

With Monark filter it doesn't have to sound "modern" at all, tho.

With modern i mean... bright, high end, precise. It has the Monark filter, but, as far as my ears tell me, Monark has a lot more saturation going on. You can add that to Massive X, of course, but... to me, it rather sounds modern, precise. And fat. Not the thin, boring, bland precise and clinical, which some other modern synths do.