Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Out Now!)

[ghettosynth]

Yeah, for the kind of bad techno/progressive stuff I make, a thicker fatter sound is the entire point, lol.

But, and I’m being a bit facetious here, Massive X seems to have jumped the shark. I’ll wait until it is included in K13U, unless it comes up cheap in a few weeks.

Right!?! This is a dark techno/ambient producer's wet dream!

[vurt]

Yeah I hate acceleration like this. Hopefully a settings to remove it will be given.

was cleaning my glasses as i scrolled, really thought you said "i hate accordions..."

In my mind, I just heard Marilyn Manson doing an all-acoustic polka song with these lyrics: "I hate accordions, but accordions like me.."

It was an oddly beautiful little ditty.

[pixel85]

About this AVX thing... it is suppose to allow multiple instances with just one first CPU hit for first instance?
Because if it is then it works and it works very well. First instance hit 20% CPU and now with 7th instance it's 30% of CPU usage. Sweet! I was worried if I'll be able to run 1 instance and I can actually create entire track with just MX

AVX makes better use of the single cores of your CPU by performing certain operations in parallel on several values at once. Each CPU has a set of so called registers that can hold values. You can then perform operations with these registers and put the result into another register. So you can for example instruct the CPU to load the value 3 into register A, the value 5 in register B and to put the result of the addition of the two registers into register C. After this operation register C will hold the value 8.

There are registers that can hold exactly one value. If the core uses these registers it will add one number to another in a certain amount of time. But there are also some special registers like the ones used by AVX that can hold several numbers at once. Let's assume registers D, E and F are such special register and we want to compute (2+1) and (5+4). In that case we'd load register D with (2, 5) and register E with (1, 4). Notice that this notation looks like vectors and indeed we will just perform a vector addition. This is why these CPU extensions are also called vector extensions. We instruct the CPU to add D and E and put the result into F. So F will hold (2, 5) + (1, 4) = (3, 9) at the end. The thing is that adding these special registers is faster than doing the individual operations with the single value registers.

If I remember correctly an AVX register can hold eight floating point values. So it can for example add eight numbers in parallel and by doing so is much faster than doing eight addition one after the other.

If more companies will start to exclusively target AVX enabled CPUs this might have a similar effect like the 32 bit and 64 bit transition.

Thank you for explanation (which I can understand )

[david.beholder]

In my mind, I just heard Marilyn Manson doing an all-acoustic polka song with these lyrics: "I hate accordions, but accordions like me.."

Joke for 40 years old people

[McLilith]

In my mind, I just heard Marilyn Manson doing an all-acoustic polka song with these lyrics: "I hate accordions, but accordions like me.."

Joke for 40 years old people

Ok. Name a current popular song that lends itself better to the line "I hate accordions".

[ew]

What's with the 1990's installer by the way?
I see they are still changing default installation paths for content...

Not really. On a Windows machine, their synths have used Program Files\Common Files\Native Instruments for factory content for ages- ever since the Kore days. The exception to that is Reaktor and all the Reaktor add-ons- that's Public Documents by default.

User content's been in Documents\Native Instruments for the same amount of time.

ew

[BlitBit]

[...]
Thank you for explanation (which I can understand )

Great! Glad to hear that I did not waste my time writing all this down.

[JerGoertz]

Installed the demo and gave MX a quick run through its paces. It seems to have a lot of good modulation options, and the interface don't phase me none, really (although the browser covering the rest of the UX is annoying). Sonically, nothing really wow'd me. MX strikes me as similar to Cypher 2, which I already own.

Don't hate it but don't feel a need for it either; just saved myself the upgrade cost for Komplete.

[EvilDragon]

I can't find the post now, but somebody recently mentioned that apparently note off via trackers doesn't work for them? It works just fine over here.

[DrWashington]

The lack of MIDI learn is a deal-breaker. They'd better implement this, and soon!

[vurt]

The lack of MIDI learn is a deal-breaker. They'd better implement this, and soon!

damn right! or im writing a stern letter to the king of the world

[chk071]

[...]
Thank you for explanation (which I can understand )

Great! Glad to hear that I did not waste my time writing all this down.

I second that. Always glad to have someone explain stuff like that so that simple folks like me can understand it as well.

[Echoes in the Attic]

What's with the 1990's installer by the way?
I see they are still changing default installation paths for content...

Not really. On a Windows machine, their synths have used Program Files\Common Files\Native Instruments for factory content for ages- ever since the Kore days. The exception to that is Reaktor and all the Reaktor add-ons- that's Public Documents by default.

User content's been in Documents\Native Instruments for the same amount of time.

ew

Strange. I'm Windows and for me it defaulted to Public Documents (not in a Native Instruments folder even, just Public Docs/Massive X Library) however I've never installed any NI content there. Maybe it's because I installed the demo separate from Native Access...

But it's been at least a decade or more since I've seen an installer with those little disk drive icons where you tell it to install the entire feature or X it out in the tree structure. Haven't seen a music application use that in some time.

[zerocrossing]

Is it just me or Velocity Off in T1-T4 modulators doesn't work? My keyboard is sending Note Off values but Massive X doesn't seem to receive them

Not just you - pretty sure it's broken.
I wasn't going to bother with a demo until I saw this post and thought maybe it'd be another softie with release velocity.
Simple to set up, with nice breakpoints/curves, and drag and drop, but it doesn't seem to work though.

On a more general note, Massive X doesn't seem to work with older pc's either. I have an older desktop and a newer laptop.
It runs fine on my laptop, but crashed my DAW's on the desktop. I can't even remember the last time that happened.

It didn't show up in my list of instruments and crashed the whole thing when I scanned for it - several times - oh well.
I was going to blame the desktop's age, but I have about 50 other softsynths on there that run just fine.

MX is deleted from both computers now though. I don't need the headaches.

The release velocity thing is probably just a bug that will get fixed, but it’s been stated that Massive X won’t work on pre AVX processor machines, so that’s the source or your issue.

[zerocrossing]

The lack of MIDI learn is a deal-breaker. They'd better implement this, and soon!

damn right! or im writing a stern letter to the king of the world

Vote me for king of the world and I’ll make sure it gets done! Also, no leaf blowers!