Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Out Now!)

[Daru925]

Also, how is the MSEG/performer in use? Hard/easy, slow/fast to edit? I'm curious if an editing system like that might eventually trickle into a new version of FM8, etc.

I use fm8 alot and the new mseg are way easier to use. You can superimpose a time divided layer on top of a sequence to quickly add rythmic changes, and stretch/compress it to create acceleration for instance.
At first i didnt see zooming and how to copy paste a sequence but the functions are there, no worries.
Once you have created variations, its possible to define an octave range on your keyboard and trigger performers with keyswitches.

[realtrance]

Now here’s a useful video:

[jeffb01]

Also, how is the MSEG/performer in use? Hard/easy, slow/fast to edit? I'm curious if an editing system like that might eventually trickle into a new version of FM8, etc.

The Performers are completely amazing. brilliant. Each of the 3 performers have actually up to 12 different msegs that can be keyswitched between each other. You can totally control what part of the mseg plays. Probably the most innovative part of massive X.

[zerocrossing]

Filters sound great. Dune 3 and Massive X have really raised the bar here, IMO. That comb filter sounds phat as hell. I don’t quite understand how FM works, though. I’ve used the routing to put osc 2 into FM and nothing happens...

Is Dune3 that good? I will have to try it again then...

Anyway, did you make sure to raise the volume of Osc 2? The FM is after that.

EDIT: FM is for filter FM, there's a little knob on the filter. In case that wasn't clear

Is there no way to hear filter FM and not the oscillator?

Yes, just route what you want to use for filter FM into the FM module but not into any of the outputs, it will then only be an FM source.

So stupid! I didn’t even think of that. Thanks!

BTW, the distortion effect is what all distortion effects should sound like on a synth. It’s not without a little (dare I say it?) aliasing, but it’s a lot better than most.

Then only thing that’s making me a bit sad is the lack of poly pressure. In today’s MPE world, it should be the very least they can do... but I’ll take full MPE as well. (Peer pressure: Serum does it! )

[realtrance]

I absolutely LOVE the accelerated knobs approach -- first discovered it on my new Arturia Microfreak (which I'm spending most of my time with these days), and it really helps, either when you're using encoders on a synth, or a mouse in a PC-based GUI.
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So the conclusion is that there is not a one fits all solution for the mouse speed knob thing. We need control about the accelerated knob and knob speed behaviour.

Bering a hater about the slow speed + acceleration thing, I think it could work for me to have a negative acceleration at very very very low mouse speed just to dial in small increments. But this should never interfere with normal knob tweaking for modulating sounds.

But in case of doubt I just take a linearish knob speed with a modifer knob for high resolution like in the past.

This kind of UI control issue is always a dilemma: one gets used to certain habits and norms, and if anything breaks same, it feels intrusive and alien at first, until it, too, becomes habitual.

Question here is whether this is just a TBD or intended as working. We’ll see!

[BDeep]

The performers are monophonic though, so it’s different to other MSEG’s. Also, haven’t found a way to loop a section during the sustain phase of a note.
Then again, I guess there’s a reason they’re not called MSEG’s

[Broken]

Sad Candlewick is, in my professional opinion, just another narcissist (technical term) who’s obsessed with getting attention online, and has probably never done a real day’s work in his life.

The internet is chock full of such people, and they cluster around anything created by people who have any talent whatsoever like flies around shit.

It’s that simple. Sorry to be blunt.

Look how Sad Candlewick has deflected this thread away from talking about Massive X, and instead focused everyone here around arguing about his fly shit.

It’s really sick, and people should just stop feeding such pimples online, and this includes one stupid country’s current Fearless Leader.

They’re all the same: ignore them.

And if my professional opinion your comment is projection.

[ghettosynth]

Now here’s a useful video:

Awesome video!

[chk071]

BTW, the distortion effect is what all distortion effects should sound like on a synth. It’s not without a little (dare I say it?) aliasing, but it’s a lot better than most.

Tried it earlier. Sounds great. There's some real quality fx in this.

[graspee]

Also, how is the MSEG/performer in use? Hard/easy, slow/fast to edit? I'm curious if an editing system like that might eventually trickle into a new version of FM8, etc.

The Performers are completely amazing. brilliant. Each of the 3 performers have actually up to 12 different msegs that can be keyswitched between each other. You can totally control what part of the mseg plays. Probably the most innovative part of massive X.

But again, would be nice if they could be poly, like performers could be in the original Massive.

[jeffb01]

But again, would be nice if they could be poly, like performers could be in the original Massive.

didn't notice that. good point.

[JoeCat]

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BTW, the distortion effect is what all distortion effects should sound like on a synth. It’s not without a little (dare I say it?) aliasing, but it’s a lot better than most.
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Yeah baby! Some Harold Saw into the Creak Filter with the California Overdrive, and it's Money for Nothing time!

[Echoes in the Attic]

Personally couldn’t care less about the supposed aliasing, sounds fine to me.

But I’m pretty surprised by all these steps backwards. NI synths have always had poly pressure. And massive had poly performers, now mono? When something is a successor (as opposed to a whole different concept synth) you should try not to lose features.

[dangayle]

Sad Candlewick is, in my professional opinion, just another narcissist (technical term) who’s obsessed with getting attention online, and has probably never done a real day’s work in his life.

The internet is chock full of such people, and they cluster around anything created by people who have any talent whatsoever like flies around shit.

It’s that simple. Sorry to be blunt.

Look how Sad Candlewick has deflected this thread away from talking about Massive X, and instead focused everyone here around arguing about his fly shit.

It’s really sick, and people should just stop feeding such pimples online, and this includes one stupid country’s current Fearless Leader.

They’re all the same: ignore them.

Dude. Not cool.

[samsam]

Agreed, disgusting diatribe, truly horrible post.