Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Out Now!)

[enCiphered]

Nothing makes sense, the static images aren't accurate. The attack and release on for the exciter are wrong.



Did no-one realize this? Who tested it?

f**k. Not Again.

[sadowickproduction]

So the attack gets its own curve control but the release curve is linked to the decay even though the ui doesnt make that clear. During adjustments of the decay curve people will get confused as to why their release length is begin effected. Who allowed that?

I guess the people who design synths for a living rather than people who make inaccurate videos about them and can't make a kick drum without having separate decay & release shapes. Can you please next pick up Kaivo by Madrona Labs and review it? Honestly that's the kind of content I'd pay for.

Modulation Envelopes with in-depth shaping

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... x/details/

[Functional]

Nothing makes sense, the static images aren't accurate. The attack and release on for the exciter are wrong.



Did no-one realize this? Who tested it?

Do you even know what the exciter is? Because honestly I don't think you do. A snob who is experienced in physical modeling stuff could actually argue that the exciter is not as much of an exciter but a particular type of an exciter that sends out a burst. For example, bowed exciters work entirely differently. The attack and release are not wrong; this is not an AD envelope, it's an exciter.

If you want to know what it is used for, you need to route the exciter to one of the mod slots and route it to the filter (don't have anything else going to the filter) and set the filter to comb. Exciters such as this are meant to excite resonators (which the comb filter essentially is). This particular exciter is meant for plucked tones and it behaves a bit differently than your ADSR mod envelope. How? How about you see yourself and see what kind of tone you get from an ADSR envelope that only has a tiny bit of decay like the exciter does.

Seriously, are you not willing to take a goddamn lesson in how things work before you start criticizing them i.e. "the static images aren't accurate"? Of course they're not accurate, it's an exciter. You can't really even give a 2d-representation of an actual exciter due to the way they work.

Take a breath and look closer at the negative cycle image description and compare it to the oscilloscope.

Notice the little F0 there? Yeah, that's also known as fundamental frequency. Isn't it kind of weird that it's "F0" instead of phase 0? Ever wondered what that is about?

So guess what, instead of staring at the oscilloscope like a fool, how about you take a 3d spectogram and wonder in pure yonder what happens when you change those parameters.

[Functional]

So the attack gets its own curve control but the release curve is linked to the decay even though the ui doesnt make that clear. During adjustments of the decay curve people will get confused as to why their release length is begin effected. Who allowed that?

I guess the people who design synths for a living rather than people who make inaccurate videos about them and can't make a kick drum without having separate decay & release shapes. Can you please next pick up Kaivo by Madrona Labs and review it? Honestly that's the kind of content I'd pay for.

Modulation Envelopes with in-depth shaping

https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... x/details/

As we already established, there's shaping for all stages if you know how to use synths. If you don't, then there's only 2 stages. Which should be plenty enough for a person who presumably doesn't know how to use them to begin with. And if you don't, maybe not try and present yourself as an expert on evaluating them. For example, evaluating exciter parameters with an oscilloscope when the graphic says F0 might not be a smart idea, but here we are.

And with this all being said, again, shaping decay and release separately is a niche purpose. You can fight on the opposite hill all you like, but the only company you'll have there are people who don't know how to use synths. Those that do, will agree that separate delay and release shapes have a niche usecase and it's entirely fine as long as the synth gives the option to do it separately too (as it does, as I have demonstrated to you).

[realtrance]

It's embarrassing when someone reveals their naked ignorance so widely.

[Forgotten]

It's embarrassing when someone reveals their naked ignorance so widely.

Especially when they come back time and time again without ever learning anything from it.

[GoldieK]

man this synth is neat, and fun to make music with

[sadowickproduction]

This synth is just not complete. A "next-generation" synth that under-performs compared to its competition. I expected more. Ive learned and concluded that he standards are low here.

[felis]

To the person who asked about note-off velocity.
So sorry, I spoke too soon in frustration over not getting MX to run on my desktop.

I didn't give it a fair try on my laptop, but re-loaded it again,
and release velocity appears to work fine with just a little bit of fiddling.
I plan on giving it a fair try.

[realtrance]

As always, the trolls go on ignore. Never heard of sadowick, never will again. Freedom!

[Functional]

This synth is just not complete. A "next-generation" synth that under-performs compared to its competition. I expected more. Ive learned and concluded that he standards are low here.

The standards are not low, you're just a goof. If I were to guess, the reason you're not pleased with Massive X is because you're only capable of using presets and as such, you're displeased with the selection of Massive X presets because so few of them are suited for that generic EDM. So you come up with any excuse you can imagine to "prove" that it's a bad synth, when you don't even know how synths work.

[sadowickproduction]

This synth is just not complete. A "next-generation" synth that under-performs compared to its competition. I expected more. Ive learned and concluded that he standards are low here.

The standards are not low, you're just a goof. If I were to guess, the reason you're not pleased with Massive X is because you're only capable of using presets and as such, you're displeased with the selection of Massive X presets because so few of them are suited for that generic EDM. So you come up with any excuse you can imagine to "prove" that it's a bad synth, when you don't even know how synths work.

I didnt install the presets dude, and I dont usually use presets to begin with.

[realtrance]

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[yehboy1]

Hey guys. I haven't kept up with this thread. Been enjoying the synth. How's the aliasing on it btw?

[KBSoundSmith]

Hey guys. I haven't kept up with this thread. Been enjoying the synth. How's the aliasing on it btw?

It's Making Synthesizers Great Again. Can't even handle all the winning.