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Functional · Post by **Functional** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:32 pm

Forgotten wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:12 pm
Functional wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:04 pm
neodeavid wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:19 pm VIRTUAL RIOT IS NOT FEELING MASSIVE X
https://twitter.com/Virtual_Riot?lang=es
This may seem like a bad thing but it actually is a good thing. A lot of people were worried (to a degree, even me) that Massive will be oriented heavily towards that kind of userbase whereas what we got was something that not many necessarily expected, at least not entirely. Problem here is that synths that appeal to Virtual Riot type of stuff are already plentiful and all around.
Never heard of him so I looked him up. His only claim to fame is that he had a number 20 hit on the US Dance Charts 3 years ago.

Not sure why people think that these opinions are somehow equivalent to coherent arguments.

I don't personally care about the fame aspect, instead care what they actually do. I'm sure that for example an endorsement from Nils Frahm (just for a thought experiment) would be pretty huge even though Nils Frahm probably hasn't occupied that many top lists. NI was pretty sure too considering the Noire library, which I truly love.

But Virtual Riot makes stuff that essentially all can be lumped under EDM. We have enough "edm synths". If Massive X was made solely with EDM in mind, we wouldn't have had that robust comb filter, we wouldn't have track delay (useful in conjunction with feedback), we wouldn't have some of the osc modes. They don't serve a purpose in EDM at all. Whereas an "EDM synth" is a synth that streamlines the process of making EDM leads and other stuff as much as possible, so some other things will get cut down in the process of streamlining. For example whole concept of semi-modularity is not really something you'd care when you're making EDM.

But I thought Serum is the current standard for an EDM synth or whatever, so they can use it all they like while I'm happy that we finally got a huge synth that isn't oriented towards EDM.

sinemotor · Post by **sinemotor** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:32 pm

I'm waiting for Kanye to post a picture of him in the studio where you accidentally see "Massive X torrent" on a computer screen behind him.

Forgotten · Post by **Forgotten** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:33 pm

ghettosynth wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:31 pm
Forgotten wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:29 pm I have no clue who this person is, but he said on Twatter that Massive X is incredible:

https://twitter.com/TobyRyan/status/1144258614124797952

Does that mean it's OK for me to like it?
Well, he's a "latte lover," so, yeah, I don't know. You do you though!

"Latte lover". Well that makes him as qualified as some of the others whose opinions have been cited here, so I think I'll keep Massive X.

Stanoli · Post by **Stanoli** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:35 pm

Oh, I see the thread finally reached the important stage...

Spencer Maddox · Post by **Spencer Maddox** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:36 pm

Forgotten wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:33 pm
ghettosynth wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:31 pm
Forgotten wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:29 pm I have no clue who this person is, but he said on Twatter that Massive X is incredible:

https://twitter.com/TobyRyan/status/1144258614124797952

Does that mean it's OK for me to like it?
Well, he's a "latte lover," so, yeah, I don't know. You do you though!
"Latte lover". Well that makes him as qualified as some of the others whose opinions have been cited here, so I think I'll keep Massive X.

More Like His Profile Picture is a Animoji so his opinion legally does not count.

Spencer Maddox · Post by **Spencer Maddox** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:37 pm

Stanoli wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:35 pm Oh, I see the thread finally reached the important stage...

I love this Website

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:39 pm

Stanoli wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:35 pm Oh, I see the thread finally reached the important stage...

Yes, we have started talking about Kim K's ass.

neodeavid · Post by **neodeavid** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:39 pm

Forgotten wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:29 pm I have no clue who this person is, but he said on Twatter that Massive X is incredible:

https://twitter.com/TobyRyan/status/1144258614124797952

Does that mean it's OK for me to like it?

:0 O wait.... EUROPE uses Massive X

Forgotten · Post by **Forgotten** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:41 pm

Functional wrote:I don't personally care about the fame aspect, instead care what they actually do. I'm sure that for example an endorsement from Nils Frahm (just for a thought experiment) would be pretty huge even though Nils Frahm probably hasn't occupied that many top lists. NI was pretty sure too considering the Noire library, which I truly love.

But Virtual Riot makes stuff that essentially all can be lumped under EDM. We have enough "edm synths". If Massive X was made solely with EDM in mind, we wouldn't have had that robust comb filter, we wouldn't have track delay (useful in conjunction with feedback), we wouldn't have some of the osc modes. They don't serve a purpose in EDM at all. Whereas an "EDM synth" is a synth that streamlines the process of making EDM leads and other stuff as much as possible, so some other things will get cut down in the process of streamlining. For example whole concept of semi-modularity is not really something you'd care when you're making EDM.

Quite honestly I wouldn't care if it was someone whose music I knew and liked - it's more than I wonder why people think that their favorite musicians' opinions should form the basis of their likes and dislikes.

I get that if there's a majority of musicians who dislike something, then there's a good chance that it's not that good, but in this case it's a few people pulling out relatively obscure artists' opinions of something and reposting as if it's a solid argument. If poster did something like: "Thought you guys might be interested in the opinion of artist XYZ..." that would be different, but I get the impression that the ones I've read in this thread are being waved in people's faces in a "told you so" way.

Definitely don't get the saddo-dick poorly formed arguments and his total disregard for his arguments being cut to pieces, but I can't help but feel that some of the citations of other artists disliking Massive X are kind of in support of his BS.

Forgotten · Post by **Forgotten** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:42 pm

ghettosynth wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:39 pm
Stanoli wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:35 pm Oh, I see the thread finally reached the important stage...
Yes, we have started talking about Kim K's ass.

Had to happen with the word 'Massive' appearing so many times in the thread...

neodeavid · Post by **neodeavid** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:44 pm

Now tha Fat boys beyond the computers make Massive XXX xD

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:44 pm

ghettosynth wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:39 pm
Stanoli wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:35 pm Oh, I see the thread finally reached the important stage...
Yes, we have started talking about Kim K's ass.

his name is "kanye"

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:45 pm

ghettosynth wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:39 pm
Stanoli wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:35 pm Oh, I see the thread finally reached the important stage...
Yes, we have started talking about Kim K's ass.

Kanye?

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:46 pm

neodeavid wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:44 pm Fat boys

did they happen to say what chubby checker thought of massive?

Functional · Post by **Functional** » Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:46 pm

Forgotten wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 4:41 pm I get that if there's a majority of musicians who dislike something, then there's a good chance that it's not that good, but in this case it's a few people pulling out relatively obscure artists' opinions of something and reposting as if it's a solid argument. If poster did something like: "Thought you guys might be interested in the opinion of artist XYZ..." that would be different, but I get the impression that the ones I've read in this thread are being waved in people's faces in a "told you so" way.

Definitely don't get the saddo-dick poorly formed arguments and his total disregard for his arguments being cut to pieces, but I can't help but feel that some of the citations of other artists disliking Massive X are kind of in support of his BS.

Yeah true, dropping opinion Virtual Riot as if it was relevant point for an argument against MX doesn't make sense. But especially when he says nothing else than that he ain't feeling it. That's all he said.

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