Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive (Out Now!)

[McLilith]

He did switch filters on and off, and he did connect the oscillator directly to the output and it showed harmonics.

Yes, apparently one can filter those harmonics inside the (main) oscillator and then it looks clean.

The fact is that after those videos some users claim that this synth cannot produce pure sine.
But actually it can.

i saw the sine

And it opened up my mind. Ooooh I saw the sine.

Isn't that a song by Alias of Bass?

[McLilith]

Because wild speculation is so hot these days, let me participate in doing so:

I think you meant to say Massive speculation?

[Mushy Mushy]

He did switch filters on and off, and he did connect the oscillator directly to the output and it showed harmonics.

Yes, apparently one can filter those harmonics inside the (main) oscillator and then it looks clean.

The fact is that after those videos some users claim that this synth cannot produce pure sine.
But actually it can.

i saw the sine

And it opened up my mind. Ooooh I saw the sine.

Isn't that a song by Alias of Bass?

All that we want
Is another filter

[McLilith]

steve is stuck in a loop

This whole thread is stuck in a loop

dont worry, once massivex is actually released it will move forward

Yeah, I can't wait till Massive X comes out. Everyone is going to be soo happy and satisfied!

[vurt]

steve is stuck in a loop

This whole thread is stuck in a loop

dont worry, once massivex is actually released it will move forward

Yeah, I can't wait till Massive X comes out. Everyone is going to be soo happy and satisfied!

it will be a game changer for sure

[perpetual3]

.. I'd surely hope that a user manual would clear up why the sine wave oscillators produce audible harmonics (nothing wrong with that if it's an inherent part of the synthesis..

Urs, the sine wave hasn't any harmonics when the filters are turned off. I suppose it's a kind of overdrive behavior.

It absolutely does.

[Functional]

Because wild speculation is so hot these days, let me participate in doing so:

I think you meant to say Massive speculation?

One of these days I'll take my life and leave a note "Alas, as all life is crowned with death, so is mine. I was simply overwhelmed with and engulfed by the punnery that was going on in KVR; the proportion of which was, to say the least, biblical."

And of course, special credits for vurt.

[vurt]

Because wild speculation is so hot these days, let me participate in doing so:

I think you meant to say Massive speculation?

One of these days I'll take my life and leave a note "Alias, as all life is crowned with death, so is mine. I was simply overwhelmed with and engulfed by the punnery that was going on in KVR; the proportion of which was, to say the least, biblical."

And of course, special credits for vurt.

fifty

[chk071]

.. I'd surely hope that a user manual would clear up why the sine wave oscillators produce audible harmonics (nothing wrong with that if it's an inherent part of the synthesis..

Urs, the sine wave hasn't any harmonics when the filters are turned off. I suppose it's a kind of overdrive behavior.

It absolutely does.

I posted this 2 times now:

Massive_X_Sine_01.jpg

Where are the harmonics? Do i need to extend the range, because there's stuff in the non audible range?

[Functional]

.. I'd surely hope that a user manual would clear up why the sine wave oscillators produce audible harmonics (nothing wrong with that if it's an inherent part of the synthesis..

Urs, the sine wave hasn't any harmonics when the filters are turned off. I suppose it's a kind of overdrive behavior.

It absolutely does.

It doesn't. As has been said many times here: want your pure sinewave, just use the osc panel filter. The sine wavetables aren't pure in and of themselves, which is intentional, as pure sines are rarely desired.

[neodeavid]

Can anyone report the video where put massive x for free, not delete my post -_-

Report it yourself.

I do, but is needed more reports to youtube delete that class of video.

So you're asking for people here to report a YouTube video?

Yeah, for those people who defend a software, but are not willing to report a video because apparently they like things for free. What irony, no?

[Functional]

Because wild speculation is so hot these days, let me participate in doing so:

I think you meant to say Massive speculation?

One of these days I'll take my life and leave a note "Alias, as all life is crowned with death, so is mine. I was simply overwhelmed with and engulfed by the punnery that was going on in KVR; the proportion of which was, to say the least, biblical."

And of course, special credits for vurt.

fifty

I want to make killing joke pun here but I wont succumb and as such, I'll leave it to you

[neodeavid]

.. I'd surely hope that a user manual would clear up why the sine wave oscillators produce audible harmonics (nothing wrong with that if it's an inherent part of the synthesis..

Urs, the sine wave hasn't any harmonics when the filters are turned off. I suppose it's a kind of overdrive behavior.

It absolutely does.

I posted this 2 times now:

Massive_X_Sine_01.jpg

Where are the harmonics? Do i need to extend the range, because there's stuff in the non audible range?

But the square with the filters off is another thing.

[McLilith]

Because wild speculation is so hot these days, let me participate in doing so:

They might have had a plan initially for A/B page for the top panel (everything before the VCA) while keeping the bottom panel the same as it is now. Due to rushed release, they didn't have the time to implement this and test it out properly (I'm assuming that it's not quite as easy to implement as just copypasteing everything).

There is no evidence to support this claim, but there is a single reason to believe it: the routing section is much bigger currently than it needs to be and the cable routing requires way too much precision too. Another mildly related reason might be the single filter aspect of it: that particular detail feels like a downgrade from Massive (even though overall this is a HUGE upgrade). It might very well be that they intended for it to have 2 filters initially, but the plan was for this A/B UI structure instead of having fair amount of clutter (like Massive had) or just pages and pages for different modules and stuff (i.e. Omnisphere).

Another mild reason I guess is that since there are only 3 inserts, it's kind of weird that third osc would really have to occupy one of them when all of them are extremely usable, including the utility tool. 3 of those poly inserts just isn't enough even if we don't take the oscs into account

But I wouldn't expect to see this anytime soon since we don't even have midi learn yet. And I must say - they did make the right call probably. What you can do with the current design is already amazing, there's no denying that. Doubling up the capacity surely would have expanded on this but I think there's other features that they should probably focus on more. Not to mention, they probably need more testing for doubling the capacity and how CPU's are going to handle it on the average, especially if there is no "draft mode".

I'll definitely be surprised if they don't add more modules, and I mean long before there is a "Massive X2". I think there will be new modules sometime before next summer that we won't have to pay extra for. I wouldn't even be surprised if it happened in time for a Black Friday or Christmas promotion.

[Functional]

.. I'd surely hope that a user manual would clear up why the sine wave oscillators produce audible harmonics (nothing wrong with that if it's an inherent part of the synthesis..

Urs, the sine wave hasn't any harmonics when the filters are turned off. I suppose it's a kind of overdrive behavior.

It absolutely does.

I posted this 2 times now:

Massive_X_Sine_01.jpg

Where are the harmonics? Do i need to extend the range, because there's stuff in the non audible range?

But the square with the filters off is another thing.

It doesn't produce a nice square in the spectrum?